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The Democrats Need an Honest Conversation on Gender Identity
The Atlantic ^ | 11/10/24 | Helen Lewis

Posted on 11/10/2024 10:21:39 PM PST by DallasBiff

The party went into an election with policies it couldn’t defend—or even explain.

Although most Americans agree that transgender people should not face discrimination in housing and employment, there is nowhere near the same level of support for allowing transgender women to compete in women’s sports—which is why Donald Trump kept bringing up the issue. His campaign also barraged swing-state voters and sports fans with ads reminding them that Kamala Harris had previously supported taxpayer-funded gender-reassignment surgery for prisoners. The commercials were effective: The New York Times reported that Future Forward, a pro-Harris super PAC, found that one ad “shifted the race 2.7 percentage points in Mr. Trump’s favor after viewers watched it.” The Harris campaign mostly avoided the subject.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; transgender; xyxx
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Oh my, The Atlantic comes to the realization that taxpayer funded transgenderisn is a losing issue and they are sad.
1 posted on 11/10/2024 10:21:39 PM PST by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

No they don’t.


2 posted on 11/10/2024 10:23:24 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DallasBiff

Oh now the bigots and liars say it.


3 posted on 11/10/2024 10:24:05 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: DallasBiff

honest conversation?

not possible


4 posted on 11/10/2024 10:32:52 PM PST by joshua c
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To: DallasBiff

Can liberals really have an honest conversation about this?

The liberal view is that so called transgender women, are women just as biological females are.

The liberal view is that anyone who disagrees with this orthodoxy is a bigot.

So considering that anyone who disagrees with this liberal view is a bigot, and a hater, how can the liberals have a conversation? They take the position that you must agree with their orthodoxy. They take the position that there’s nothing to discuss. Now they want to have a discussion?


5 posted on 11/10/2024 10:33:25 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (P)
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To: DallasBiff

The Democrats have had an honest conversation among themselves and have agreed to the nutty idea that a person’s gender is whatever the person says it is.


6 posted on 11/10/2024 10:35:45 PM PST by FreedomForce
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To: DallasBiff

Ah, The Atlantic — bought by the widow of Steven Jobs. Laureen Powell Jobs never worked an honest freaking day in her woke hippie life. She bought the Atlantic with money HE earned. What a GirlBoss.

May Laureen drown in the virulent pus she has carefully (!) nurtured to fester and then consume millions of the unwary and ungodly.


7 posted on 11/10/2024 10:49:56 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: DallasBiff

Dems will trim sail on a number of issues. However, if we get the economy going in a way that benefits the working class, it won’t matter.


8 posted on 11/10/2024 10:54:34 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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Liberal crackpots scorn anyone who disagrees with their screwed up
view that transgenders are merely biological females w/ male attachments.


Trump voters said, “no way, go take a hike.”


9 posted on 11/10/2024 11:03:07 PM PST by Liz ( )
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To: DallasBiff

Stop teaching it in school as something that’s okay and that you must accept...and stop with the pronoun cr**.


10 posted on 11/10/2024 11:03:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: DallasBiff

They can’t have an honest conversation because they can’t be honest with themselves. If 1 person says something “out of line”; the sheep start braying and the 1 person gets booted. They’re cowards if nothing else.


11 posted on 11/10/2024 11:06:24 PM PST by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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The Atlantic trying to remain relevant.


12 posted on 11/10/2024 11:18:19 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: DallasBiff

An honest conversation would have to address the trans community’s agenda of grooming and recruiting our children. Short of that, they are hiding the REAL issue.


13 posted on 11/11/2024 12:14:11 AM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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taxpayer-funded gender-reassignment surgery for prisoners.
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Do you mean, Trump is for denying to prisoners the necessary sex assignment treatments?! 😩😂


14 posted on 11/11/2024 12:24:44 AM PST by AZJeep
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Democrats ?

What'sa' democrat ?

15 posted on 11/11/2024 12:27:27 AM PST by knarf (Candice Owens, Personmal advisor)
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To: DallasBiff

The transgender issue is a proxy for the bigger issue of whether people can simply assert things and have them be true or whether there’s an objective reality that isn’t subject to human will. The postmodern left believes the former. In fact it’s so fundamental for them that their worldview collapses if it isn’t true.

That’s why you can’t have an honest conversation with them about transgenderism — because what you’re really discussing isn’t transgenderism but the deeper metaphysics of their political faith, which for them is non-negotiable.


16 posted on 11/11/2024 12:35:26 AM PST by Yardstick
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No. This talk of ‘we need a conversations about....’ is Kamala shit. Her standard go to. Their ‘conversation’ is really nothing more than you listen to what I want and we do that, regardless of your input.


17 posted on 11/11/2024 12:56:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: FreedomForce
The Democrats have had an honest conversation among themselves and have agreed to the nutty idea that a person’s gender is whatever the person says it is.

Who elected them God?

18 posted on 11/11/2024 12:57:47 AM PST by Kudsman (Hey,, Democrat,,leave them kids alone!)
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Although most Americans agree that transgender people should not face discrimination in housing and employment

No, most Americans do not agree that there are "transgender people." These are not transgenders but transvestites and should be treated as such.

19 posted on 11/11/2024 1:51:27 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: DallasBiff

What’s to talk about? We’ve given them all the room in the world to be as weird as they want. We’ve tolerated a lot of their queer nonsense. We just are NOT going to allow them to force us to participate in normalizing their weirdness, and they better keep it the hell away from our kids.


20 posted on 11/11/2024 2:00:38 AM PST by Bullish (Socialism is a weed that blooms into communism, the tyranny that strangles liberty.)
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