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When Did Google Search Become Totally Useless?
The Federalist ^ | 10/22/2024 | Rich Cromwell

Posted on 10/22/2024 8:35:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Why bother with making information accessible and usable if you can tell people what you want them to hear instead?

When Google launched in the late 1990s, it quickly overtook the market for search engines. Its proprietary method of indexing led users to results they were actually looking for rather than producing the hodgepodge of results offered by other search engines of the time. Within just a few years, it was dominating the market. Today, it is a money-printing machine.

It’s also increasingly horrible at the core mission that produced such success. The company’s leadership may have realized early on that to dominate they needed to maximize the marketing angle of search, but over time that side of the business — the one that produces revenue — swallowed the informative results that drove the search engine’s success.

Now, Google’s true product, its users, are drowning in a sea of partisan slop and sponsored content rather than getting the results we’re looking for when we take to the World Wide Web. By doing so, Google is making it pointless for us to continue to allow ourselves to be the product.

Let’s say you have an artistic daughter who wants some oil paints for Christmas, but you’re unsure about which brand to buy or even what the definition of oil paint is. You head over to Google and type in “oil paint.” Is your first result a definition or even the Wikipedia page? Nope, it’s ads. You have to scroll to get to Wikipedia.

Similarly, you might find yourself hungry while on the road, so someone in the car Googles “restaurants near me.” There was a time when this feature was useful. Now, the restaurants are paying to play and the resulting results are ridiculously skewed. While I’m not going to dox myself here with screenshots of the results I get when I Google “restaurants near me” while sitting in my house, suffice it to say that the top results aren’t necessarily the closest, or even highest-rated, eateries. Some that I know are there — because I live in this area! — aren’t even listed. 

Granted, these aren’t extremely pressing issues. People researched oil paints and found places to eat for decades upon decades without the assistance of the internet. What is a bigger deal is how nakedly partisan Google has become. Former President Trump has even complained about it, taking time to call CEO Sundar Pichai to point out the problem.

Naturally, his complaints were downplayed, but your Google search is supposedly tailored to your interests. As I am not suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and have written positively about him (and used Google to find info for such articles), my results should be reflective of that. Instead, I get the latest anti-Trump bromides of the day.

The same search on another day was slightly different, including some horse race articles.

When I clicked on the “more news” section, though …

At least those results are timely, if not all actually news, but what if the search is expanded to “What are some good things about Donald Trump?”

Points to Google for pointing to the National Archives in the first hit, I suppose. The second, though, is largely a list of things writers at Politico deem negative with the “upshot” being that President Biden was going to undo them. What if the search is changed to “Donald Trump achievements?”

Okay, Google really likes that Politico piece and has deemed anything Donald Trump did ever before becoming president irrelevant, but what about “Donald Trump achievements as president?” Surely, its algorithm can pop up a few pieces about the economy or immigration or Trump helping grow The Washington Post’s subscriber base so as to help keep democracy from dying in darkness or whatever.

Super cool, super helpful, super neutral. Now, let’s check in on Kamala Harris.

Well, that’s weird. Whereas Trump’s campaign website is pushed down the page when his name is Googled, beneath mostly negative opinion pieces, Harris’ website is right there, with the “top stories” below it. I’m sure that’s just how search engines work, with no biases programmed in whatsoever. The completely neutral algorithm just happens to display the info the campaign would prefer to be displayed first at the top of the page, with the top stories about the candidate being answers to questions people might have about her, as well as a hit piece on Bret Baier thrown in for good measure.

This isn’t just about the election, though, but also about the changing nature between users — again, the product — and the online services we allow ourselves to be pimped out for. The disparities between the results for Trump and Harris simply highlight how stark the problem is.

Whether it’s Google or Facebook or Instagram, the initial premise of expanding easy access to information and apprising us of stories we might have otherwise missed has been largely destroyed. Google and Meta show us what they want us to see, not what we signed up to see, and it’s starting to turn people off. Maybe that’s a good thing, because most people need to spend more time in the real world. But when we’re trying to find a restaurant or information about voting or see pictures of a friend’s new landscaping or figure out how to get Elmer’s glue off the hardwood floors, burying those things under a mountain of nonsense makes us more likely to tune out.

Which is probably not just a good thing but a great thing — but initially the internet and social media were supposed to be about connecting us, about decreasing barriers to information. It would be nice if our tech overlords could remember what their initial goals were — in Google’s case, it was “to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful” — and return to those ideals instead of pushing us toward full “Idiocracy.”

I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen, though, particularly as Google itself deems such queries unworthy of answering.


Richard Cromwell is a writer and senior contributor at The Federalist. He lives in Northwest Arkansas with his wife, three daughters, and two crazy dogs. Co-host of the podcast Coffee & Cochon, you can find him on Facebook and Twitter, though you should probably avoid using social media.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: bias; google; internet; search; searchengine; searchengines; tldr
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To: caver

I just use Brave search.


41 posted on 10/22/2024 11:18:59 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Chickensoup; Seruzawa

clicking into images, give you this page layout. then click into the first image, and on the right gives a direct link to the media behind the pic. simply click the right arrow to get your fill of the next 1000s of pics with pertaining info links on the right...

https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=Triumph%20motorcycle%20parts


42 posted on 10/22/2024 11:19:09 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Chickensoup

the thing I like best is the links for every pic. select images off their main search, and the click into the first pic. there you’ll get a right side bar with a link to the pic source and the info. hit the next arrow on the left or right side of the pics for countless others. google will give you 10 or 20 and then start showing signs of ADD...

https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.recreoviral.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2FLas-mejores-ciudades-del-mundo-16.jpg&lr=21074&p=2&pos=6&rpt=simage&text=mt%20rushmore


43 posted on 10/22/2024 11:29:45 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Chickensoup

sorry for the double post!! thought I was sending to 2 different people!


44 posted on 10/22/2024 11:36:12 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: heartwood

Exactly.


45 posted on 10/22/2024 11:42:50 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Cold Heart

Even though I’ve been slow to warm to Musk, that would please me.


46 posted on 10/22/2024 11:43:14 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Exactly my point (and good list):

“Opportunity”


47 posted on 10/22/2024 11:44:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind

When it was co-opted by the FBI and CIA?


48 posted on 10/22/2024 11:57:15 AM PDT by oil_dude
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To: sit-rep

Yes I saw that. Nice search engine


49 posted on 10/22/2024 12:12:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: SeekAndFind

I use Brave search on my computer/iPhone and Duckduckgo on my Kindle. I have been having problems with the Kindle version, so I decided to reinstall The DDG app. Guess what? The DDG app has been removed from the Amazon app store. Brave has never been available for Kindle. The first search engine listed on the app store? Google. BTW, I refuse to use Amazon’s Silk.


50 posted on 10/22/2024 12:19:08 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SeekAndFind

Bing is just as bad.


51 posted on 10/22/2024 12:36:43 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: SeekAndFind

Damn. Suffice it to say Google sucks and we know it.


52 posted on 10/22/2024 1:37:31 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The internet is another arm of Big Media
53 posted on 10/22/2024 1:47:57 PM PDT by yelostar (TRUMP/VANCE 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind


G**gle is the largest and most pervasive censor and manipulator of information that has ever existed ...




... at least on this planet.


G**gle exists entirely to modify what you think by controlling what you see and read. If you use any G**gle product (without first making some technically astute modifications), you're as much as begging for a proctological exam every time you fire up a PC or handheld digital device.

54 posted on 10/23/2024 1:00:23 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been using Bing for 5 years. It is not politicized as far as I can tell.
Though these days I mostly use Perplexity AI internet search. https://www.perplexity.ai/
It is 10x more thorough than Google and Bing


55 posted on 10/23/2024 1:15:42 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

I use Brave most of the time, but have to admit that a LOT of the time I resort to Google to get good results. Of course, if politics is involved Google isn’t the way to go. But for crafts, music, etc., Google is better.


56 posted on 10/23/2024 1:21:02 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the felon with the pierced ear. )
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To: zeestephen

No googol for me. Been using Bing for 5 years....
Though these days I mostly use Perplexity AI internet search. https://www.perplexity.ai/
It is 10x more thorough than Google and Bing


57 posted on 10/23/2024 1:22:13 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: SeekAndFind
Meanwhile, NYS, CA, and IL are bribing presstitutes with taxpayer dollars...

Empire State Local News Coalition Celebrates Inclusion of $90 Million Local Media Tax Credit in Final FY 2025 New York State Budget

Closed-Door Deal Between Google, Gov. Newsom and State Lawmakers Sells Californians and Local News Short

Illinois Passes $25 Million in Tax Credits To Boost Local Journalism

See the second story.

Google is far from useless.

58 posted on 10/30/2024 8:45:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok, a really good topic I know a tiny bit about. I have a business acquittance who is a Diamond Google Product Expert. She helps me with my Google business listing and the SEO for my business website. I manage and make changes based on her advice and guidance, “most of the time.”

Google has changed the algorithm quite a bit over the last few years. My Google-gal lets us know when things are changing, how they change and how to tweak things to continue to rank in the 5-pack. So if you look for “XYZ near me” you come up in the top 5 without having to pay for advertising. But in order to do that you have to use Search Engine Optimization really well. Otherwise that great restaurant you have...it will never be seen on Google. If you don’t land on the first page of search or top 5 on Google Maps...blame your internet marketing person.

So, let’s say I need a bit of research from an actual legit source like I did in 2020 for my book. I naturally know some of the websites I trust for my area of expertise. Easy-peasy research for me. BUT...my little editor had a terrible time trying to research even with the links provided. Google simply wasn’t letting the editor search for the verified content. Why? We determined it had to with all the old searches in his computer cache and previous search history.


59 posted on 10/30/2024 9:10:48 AM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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