“Blue Falcon” ping to the other “Backdoor Timmy” Walz thread.
Back-door Tampon Timmy.
This is not going away anytime soon
I have a brother-in-law who was also a member of the MN National Guard. He made no bones about it, he was in for the benefits and pension. He also made it to sergeant but I don’t know what level.
He was in a unit he considered safe; skill set unlikely to deploy. He bragged about his 2 weeks a year tromping in the woods of Fort Ripley in the day and playing cards at night. He got his son into the same unit.
Well, they got notice that they were going to Kosovo. He immediately retired (just shy of 20 years I think). His son deployed and came home a PTSD wreck.
I doubt this is peculiar to the MN Nat.Guard, but it’s a familiar story to me.
I’m glad this is on CNN
Timmy to Kamala: “Now they are calling me Backdoor ...”
Kamala to Timmy: “It’s taken. That’s my nickname.”
"...Now in June 2005, Julin walked into a meeting at the camp again, and was told Walz had “quit.” “The issue that had came out of this was, first of all, how did Tim Walz quit without discussing with me because I was his next level of leadership.”
“The other issue that came out of this was that the individual that approved this was two levels higher than myself in the enlisted corps and should have had Tim Walz come back to me and discuss why he was going forward or not going forward now after he already told me he was going forward,” he said.
Julin said because of Walz’s rank, he should’ve known protocol for how he was supposed to go about exiting the military. “Tim Walz knew the process and procedures, he went around me and above and beyond me … basically went in there to get somebody to back him … it was just a backdoor process...”
Despicable. Just despicable. This shows this "lower-than-whale-sh*t" guy Walz in an even worse light, and I didn't think that was going to be possible.
He jumped the chain of command for something like that. Jumping the chain of command for a moral issue is ONE thing. If someone is encountering a moral issue with the person directly above them, they owe it to them to to speak face-to-face with them, IMO. I understand there are times that might not be possible. The point is, I can find situations where jumping the chain might be the only way.
THIS damn well sure WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE situations. This was so disrespectful and calculated that it would even overshadow his apparent cowardice.
Walz has a perpetual smirk and not a little bit of effeminacy embedded in his face. I don’t see how anyone could vote for him. That man is not right.
so the members of the NG can quit whenever they
feel like it?
how does that work?
"...Other soldiers who served with Walz say the negative backlash against him is “just not right.”
“I don’t agree with a lot of his politics, but Tim Walz is a good man, and he was a good soldier,” Master Sgt. Thomas Eustice told Fox 9. “And for people to vilify him, it’s just not right...”
I don't know who this guy is, Master Sgt. Thomas Eustice, so I don't wish to attack him.
But I have to ask: How would HE feel about a subordinate who didn't come to him with his intentions to retire, but instead jumped up to the two people in the chain of command above him?
I really want to know.
I grew up in a Navy family for a thirty year veteran, and spent four years in myself, but I got out nearly 45 years ago, so I could be all wet behind the ears. Maybe this is not such a big deal as I am making it out to be. Maybe times have changed. If so, I would like someone to set me straight if I am off-base here, but:
The family I grew up in, in the Navy I grew up in, and the Navy that I served in, it was steadfast and universally accepted that jumping the chain of command is a dishonorable practice, and without proper justification, is the best and most sure way to get in trouble.
Am I wrong here? I know there are many on this forum who served in the military. Am I wrong? If I am, tell me so. I won't be angry or hurt.
I fully recognize that the military of 45 years ago is not the military of today, or even 2005, but that is something I did not think could or would change.
It was reported elsewhere that he didn’t even sign the form that persons leaving the Guard are obliged to sign. Instead of the usual signature someone wrote “Soldier unavailable for signature.”
Okay I would be more than happy to give Walz a pass on his unfortunate exit from the service just before being deployed if the records show that he signed his reitirement papers before he was aware of his unit being deployed to Iraq.
He should publish is retirement papers so that the voting public is aware that the Democrat's VP nominee is a coward or not.
I think that the voters are entitled to know and Walz has the power to inform us or not.
What is he waiting for.
I haven’t seen this posted elsewhere but a National Review writer found this C-SPAN video from 2016 in which the interviewer says that Walz served with his unit in Afghanistan, and Walz nods along.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?405292-3/us-military-forces-reduction
Now, perhaps nodding and failing to correct doesn’t quite rise to the level of “stolen valor” for which he could be convicted, but it’s nonetheless interesting in the context of his other misrepresentations
Backdoor Timpon!
What to understand is that states’ National Guards are highly political. Each state has an Adjutant General (AG), a two star General appointed by the Governor, they are the most senior officer in each state.
So the AG’s cousin Billy Bob who was a sergeant finds himself the 1SG of a company, and then a CSM of a Battalion, Brigade, or Division. I’ve seen this. And it is worse in the officer ranks. The chance of getting into any National Guard unit as a Major or above from outside the state is close to zero.
I would not be surprised to find Walz connected to Minnesota National Guard Leadership from 1995 to 2005.
His words and deeds during the potential deployment/retirement debacle and his later dissembling about it could be described as Stolen Valor but the results of his actions that I see I’d call Abandoned Valor.
He does not deserve the vote of any veteran.
A Command Sergeant Major isn’t anyone’s “superior officer”
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Walz - D eceiver. Words and Deeds.