Posted on 07/21/2024 6:36:22 AM PDT by DallasBiff
INDIANAPOLIS — a 29-year-old man was kiIIed following a road rage incident captured on a witness’s cell phone.
The incident was deemed self-defense and the shooter was released without being arrəsted.
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I’ll be surprised if this doesn’t go to court at least as a wrongful death trial. The shot man approached the car, struck it with the right hand holding the gun, which was stupid, then transfered it to the left hand which the court could say was an effort to lowering his defenses. It appeared, fom what we could see, when he lowered it he was not “on the trigger” and the gun was pointed down. This mght get interesting in a stand your ground call.
wy69
I’ll be surprised if this doesn’t go to court at least as a wrongful death trial. The shot man approached the car, struck it with the right hand holding the gun, which was stupid, then transfered it to the left hand which the court could say was an effort to lowering his defenses. It appeared, fom what we could see, when he lowered it he was not “on the trigger” and the gun was pointed down. This mght get interesting in a stand your ground call.
wy69
Well this was a clear case of the guy protecting his life and property, I think a jury would debate for about 15 minutes and giving an innocent verdict.
The attorneys might make that claim, but it was no such thing. You can shoot with the left hand just as well as the right hand for close range.
The aggressor was a lethal and immediate threat the instant he stepped out of his vehicle with a gun in hand. Doesn't matter which hand.
It was a good self-defense shoot.
LOL! He chose poorly. I saw one genius a while back on that website Documenting reality who walked into this gas station I assume to rob it, only the gas station owner hired an armed security guard and the guard right away knew what he was up to and had his fire arm pulled and pointed it at the guy.
So rather than use his two brain cells and leave, what does he do? He pulls his gun out of his wasitband and points it at the guard and guard just completely unloads on the guy, shoots him what sounds to be 15 times to the chest, and incredibly the guy is on the ground arguing with the guard “Really dude?” the guard reloads and keeps shooting him over and over and over until finally he stops moving.
Here it is if you want to see it, it’s not bloody or grusome, it’s just the guy is pretty much turned into swiss cheese.........
https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/usa-security-guard-shot-man-who-pulled-gun-253296/
You approach a car yelling like a mad man with a gun in your hand then you’re just asking to be shot.
You approach a car yelling like a mad man with a gun in your hand then you’re just asking to be shot.
It depends upon the time of day the jury is given the case. Were it late morning, they might want to stretch things out so they could get a free lunch.
According to this article, the shooter was released.
In a wrongful death suit, the plaintiff would have to show that the victim's negligence did not materially contribute to the death. The victim banging on the truck with a gun in his hand while screaming at the driver would make that very a difficult argument.
He probably had a cold and was having a bad day.
Unless you scroll down and see the picture of the thug afterwards. :-)
lolz
Doh! Forgot about that! He gave him some extra dental work
You can bet there are people in his life: family, neighbors, co-workers who whisper to one another that they are glad he is dead.
All that don’t mean jack s**t. The gunman changing hands has zip to do with anything. Trust me here.
Anyone approaching someone’s vehicle with a gun in hand, in a threatening manner no less, during a road rage incident no less, should be immediately dropped, exactly like the victim did to the gunman in this case.
“I think a jury would debate for about 15 minutes and giving an innocent verdict.”
That always depends on how it is presented and how the jury is made up. And that’s my point, it could get to a crap shoot. And not being charged with a murder doesn’t make wrongful death charge a non-entity. Look at O.J’s situation. Acquited of murder, fined millions over wrongful death.
wy69
Re: “most of us would have done the same thing:”
In a heartbeat.
My life is more important to me than some psychopath’s. I have people who depend on me.
“You can shoot with the left hand just as well as the right hand for close range.”
That is a basis for a criminal trial. Not a wrongful death suit. Different field of play.
“The aggressor was a lethal and immediate threat the instant he stepped out of his vehicle with a gun in hand.”
Not neccessarily. He could have gone the other way. Remember, this is a suit, not a criminal trial. If the plaintiff’s lawyers can prove the shooter was contributory to the death, it is a paid injury and depending on the state, how the reward will be given. In California, for instanse, killing someone who is imminently endangering your life is a key to stand your ground scenerios. Any contributory action by the shooter can be a problem in the suit. And he being the only shooter and the only person to obviously aim a gun are strikes against him.
“It was a good self-defense shoot.”
Not with what I see. We can’t see the angle of the gun in his left hand as it is behind his body. But if the gun was not aimed at the shooter, the guy outside the car is allowed to carry a gun if he has a permit and has no liability to dispose of it. Anger does not fill the descriuption of threat by itself. And this is why I think it may get interesting.
wy69
“You can shoot with the left hand just as well as the right hand for close range.”
That is a basis for a criminal trial. Not a wrongful death suit. Different field of play.
“The aggressor was a lethal and immediate threat the instant he stepped out of his vehicle with a gun in hand.”
Not neccessarily. He could have gone the other way. Remember, this is a suit, not a criminal trial. If the plaintiff’s lawyers can prove the shooter was contributory to the death, it is a paid injury and depending on the state, how the reward will be given. In California, for instanse, killing someone who is imminently endangering your life is a key to stand your ground scenerios. Any contributory action by the shooter can be a problem in the suit. And he being the only shooter and the only person to obviously aim a gun are strikes against him.
“It was a good self-defense shoot.”
Not with what I see. We can’t see the angle of the gun in his left hand as it is behind his body. But if the gun was not aimed at the shooter, the guy outside the car is allowed to carry a gun if he has a permit and has no liability to dispose of it. Anger does not fill the descriuption of threat by itself. And this is why I think it may get interesting.
wy69
Yes, this is a textbook example of how to get shot.
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