Posted on 07/20/2024 1:23:52 PM PDT by Pete Dovgan
I wanted to ask if anyone had run across information about the following on the internet:
1. The SS usually has drones up. Has there been any comments about video from drones about the shooters position and the nearby water tower before the drones failed?
2. Does anyone know if the field has been completely gone over for bullets to do ballistics to compare and find out how many shots, where they hit dirt, and if they match a single weapon? This seems like standard stuff, but I haven’t seen anything.
3. The victims that were shot and bullet fragments from those wound have been examined for caliber and matched to single rifle? Again, should be standard and I assume done before FBI issues statement about single loan gunman.
4. What’s the deal with the transportation of the known gunman? They said he owned a small Hyundai car, yet he brought a five foot ladder-probably wouldn’t fit, and they towed away a minivan with Arizona plates? Odd.
5. Why did the shooter “stash his rifle” the day before, but not stash a ladder the day before. Why did he buy a ladder if there was already a 10 Foot ladder there?
6. Has the SS director, or person in charge that day, released communications of the FBI counter snipers and any orders given to them?
7. Has the NSA, or any other satellite company, released images of the rally to the public. Specifically the water tower and the roof? I find it unlikely that it wasn’t under surveillance.
7. Who was the onsite agent in charge for that Trump rally? Have they done an interview?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Chris Martenson: ‘Rock Solid’ Evidence of ‘At Least’ Two Shooters in Trump Assassination Attempt
Supposedly Crooks climbed up on on the roof via a A/C unit .
The fact that there was not law enforcement stationed outside of that building is a sure sign that something fishy is going on.
The only “topic” input by the poster was Chit-Chat. Maybe vanities are allowed if they only reference that topic.
Correct, Trump turned his head be the grace of God and was only nicked by the shooter. They thought that Trump would be dead and the GOP in disarray. Explaining the whole shooting explanation would be trickled out and it would be blamed on incompetence and most questions would be simply ignored. They didn’t count on dozens of eye witnesses with video of the shooter hours and minutes and immediately before and during the shooting.
I heard that Crooks stashed his DPMS AR-15 rifle before the shooting. That had to be done way before the rally to avoid being caught with the rifle. I also heard they knew the location it was stashed—Crooks hid his father’s rifle near the AC unit he used to climb up onto the roof of the AGR building. It was certainly not in his backpack because that was where they discovered the golf range finder. How did they know where he stashed it? Did they discover the rifle during a sweep of the grounds before the rally? Upon its discovery, did they leave it there in hopes of spotting Crooks retrieving it before climbing up on the roof to shoot it? Or, did they expect Crooks, retrieving it, and going ahead with his assassination plan, in my conspiracy mind—which became the SS’s plan?
July 13
I also read where it was a disassembled rifle he had in a back pack.
So many conflicting reports which hapoen when no one is giving the truth.
I’m sure Trump’s people are working hard to get factual information. First, all the ballistics need to be divulged.
#4. Preliminary sweeps found the weapon and allowed it to be used by Crooks.
Interesting post—but SS has a lot of other duties other than protecting dignitaries.
This long article walks through all those duties:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service
It is a classic case of “mission creep”:
“The Secret Service is tasked with safeguarding the payment and financial systems of the United States from a wide range of financial and cyber-based crimes.
Financial investigations include counterfeit U.S. currency, bank and financial institution fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, illicit financing operations, and major conspiracies.
Cyber investigations include cybercrime, network intrusions, identity theft, access device fraud, credit card fraud, and intellectual property crimes.
The Secret Service is also a member of the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) which investigates and combats terrorism on a national and international scale.
Also, the Secret Service investigates missing and exploited children and is a partner of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC).”
No. Crooks stashed his DPMS AR-15 rifle before the shooting. That had to be done way before the rally to avoid being caught with the rifle. I also heard they knew the location it was stashed—Crooks hid his father’s rifle near the AC unit he used to climb up onto the roof of the AGR building. It was certainly not in his backpack because that was where they discovered the golf range finder.
Didn’t say I believed it.
Reread my second paragraph
No disagreement. I think you are on track to what I am thinking. There was no disassembled rifle in his back pack when metal detector discovered something in his back pack. Upon that discovery, they opened the back pack and only found the range finder. The weapon was already stashed and it’s good you agree with that.
I have a question to ask, too.
Was there any reaction from biden about the attempt?
any published reaction?
Thanks for the info; did the scope of SS responsibility change at all when it moved from Treasury to HS after 9/11?
You asked some interesting questions regarding ballistic/forensics. I’ve wondered that myself.
There’s the two shooter question. This could be easily figured out with ballistics/forensic type work. For example if Crooks had a 20 round magazine with 14 rounds left in it and 6 spent casings were found, then six shots could be accounted for as coming from him.
And the projectiles could be matched to the barrel of his weapon. The attack was very well video documented so there would be a record of just how those that were hit were positioned. Taking the angle the projectile entered their body as well as how and were they physically were could reveal the angle the bullet was fired from. If they all came from Crooks area, then there’s just one shooter.
But if Crooks only shot three rounds of the six and the ballistics of some do not match his gun as well as the angles of the bullets do not match his location, then there were two shooters.
This is simple routine investigative stuff, and the authorities know by now for certain how many shooters there were, be it one or two.
Proof that shots were fired from 4 different distances at Trump rally
And what is that big red CASE combine doing there? Looks strange to me.
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