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Kentucky motel ordered to pay $2 million after guest dies from 150-degree shower
NBC news ^ | 7/18/24 | Susan Baek

Posted on 07/19/2024 5:45:53 PM PDT by CFW

The family of a 76-year-old Kentucky man was awarded over $2 million for his death from second- and third-degree burns suffered in a scalding hot motel shower where water temperatures reached at least 150 degrees Fahrenheit.

Court documents from the lawsuit alleged that Alex Chronis checked into the Econo Lodge in Erlanger, Kentucky, on Nov. 18, 2021. The next morning, he turned on the shower and was immediately struck by extremely hot water that knocked him to the floor while the water continued to burn him. The two people who were in the motel with Chronis heard his screams and removed him from the tub.

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The defense claimed Chronis didn't even stay at the motel, said Blankenship. Attorneys for the defense declined to comment, citing the pending appeal.

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Talk about a story short on information!

What evidence did the hotel have that the victim didn't stay at the motel.

What did experts say about the hot water heater at the location?

This is the level of reporting we have now in our nation. AI?

1 posted on 07/19/2024 5:45:53 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

And if it was too hot why couldn’t he mix the cold water, or just not get in?


2 posted on 07/19/2024 5:49:59 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: CFW

Uhh, every shower I’ve ever seen has this setting where you can actually turn hot water colder. And cold water hotter.

Until it’s just right.

This sounds like the idiots who put McDonalds hot coffee between their legs only to get burned.


3 posted on 07/19/2024 5:50:21 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Although as I recall Governor Greg Abbott is in a wheelchair today due to scalding hot water from a shower.

And he’s no idiot.


4 posted on 07/19/2024 5:52:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: CFW

I used to work in a motel. It’s for the laundry


5 posted on 07/19/2024 5:52:58 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Gov. Abbott had a tree fall on him.


6 posted on 07/19/2024 5:55:40 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: CFW

What an idiot that can’t even operate a shower.


7 posted on 07/19/2024 5:56:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Responsibility2nd

Abbott was out running, when a large oak tree along his path cracked and
fell on Abbott’s back, leaving him forever paralyzed from the waist down.


8 posted on 07/19/2024 5:58:12 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray : Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: Responsibility2nd
This sounds like the idiots who put McDonalds hot coffee between their legs only to get burned.

that story was also quite underreported...the person nearly died. question is - should McDonald's have been handing out a flimsy cup filled with something that was literally lethal if spilled on you - not merely "hot" that it would cause burns.

9 posted on 07/19/2024 5:59:14 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: laplata

Learned something new. I’d heard and read it was hot water requiring skin grafts.

I guess the paralysis deadened nerves to his feet leaving him unable to tell they were scalding.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 5:59:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: CFW

A slightly better report.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-dies-after-scalding-shower-burns-him-ky-suit-says-now-motel-owes-his-family-2m/ar-BB1pP1hv


11 posted on 07/19/2024 6:00:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: BikerJoe

Sounds like he got in the tub first, then turned the water on. But hot water is not instantaneous. As the temp of the water goes up, you adjust the temp to your liking. If it gets too hot, get out of the tub.

I never get into a shower or tub and turn the water on, especially in a strange, new location.

Maybe this 76 year old had the IQ of a turnip. Or maybe he is physically disabled.

What a weird story.


12 posted on 07/19/2024 6:06:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, it sounds as if he must have been suffering from dementia if he forgot to adjust the water before entering the shower.

That being written, 150F is too hot for a residential application.


13 posted on 07/19/2024 6:10:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Way too hot, yes. I don’t even like ours at 120F. Too easy to get scalded even washing hands or doing a few dishes.


14 posted on 07/19/2024 6:12:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: Republican Wildcat

No, the person was in no danger from being scalded on the thighs. My cousin was on the team of lawyers suing McDonalds.

The State of Oregon required at the time that anyone selling “hot” coffee had to dispense it above a certain temperature.


15 posted on 07/19/2024 6:13:48 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: AppyPappy

It’s not just laundry. Some plumbers turn the water on very hot in large buildings. They say it’s because lower water temperatures cause legionnaires disease. I’m not saying I’m believing this. Just reporting.


16 posted on 07/19/2024 6:14:02 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: CFW

https://solutions.moen.com/Article_Library/How_to_Adjust_the_PosiTemp_Temperature_Limit_Stop


Almost all if not all shower valves have a hot temp limiter.

And the installation instructions are usually in several languages.

but if not read....................


17 posted on 07/19/2024 6:15:36 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
This sounds like the idiots who put McDonalds hot coffee between their legs only to get burned.

Tubs, showers and bathroom sinks are required to have thermostatic mixing valves (also known as tempering valves or anti-scald valves) to protect users. This man didn't think a motel would hire a non-licensed plumber to do work in the building and paid for it with his life. It's one more sign of the decline into third world lack of standards and enforcement.

The individual who connected the plumbing without the thermostatic valve should be in prison for manslaughter.



18 posted on 07/19/2024 6:20:35 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: laplata

My grandfather went the exact same way. RIP.


19 posted on 07/19/2024 6:25:40 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A tree fell on him while jogging, I believe.


20 posted on 07/19/2024 6:26:09 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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