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Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.

https://news.rediff.com/commentary/2024/jul/15/forensics-say-as-many-as-3-guns-fired-at-trump-rally/1ed6db4dcbd7ec050ea60377cc81f192

1 posted on 07/17/2024 2:23:08 PM PDT by rxsid
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Total garbage, you should be better than this.


2 posted on 07/17/2024 2:23:58 PM PDT by Wayne07
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Grassy knoll bump.


4 posted on 07/17/2024 2:25:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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I thought the 3 guns from forensics were the shooter’s gun and two sniper (police/SS) guns. Which is old news.


5 posted on 07/17/2024 2:25:52 PM PDT by norcal joe
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6 posted on 07/17/2024 2:26:23 PM PDT by Yogafist
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I heard it was penguins in bondage.


7 posted on 07/17/2024 2:26:26 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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So, it’s been more than 60 years since the JFK assassination, and we’re still not sure who did it, how many, from where, etc. Why would anyone think the same bunch of government bunglers (or worse) would figure this attempted assassination out in less than a week? And tell anyone the truth? Well?


8 posted on 07/17/2024 2:27:21 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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Three spaced shots from Crooks, 5 from sniper 1 and after a pause, a final shot from sniper 2.


9 posted on 07/17/2024 2:27:27 PM PDT by bigbob
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Stands to reason...
The biden-obama WH cabal of communists & other perverts would have been expected to be thorough...


11 posted on 07/17/2024 2:29:01 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Bots are busy all over social media sites posting garbage.


12 posted on 07/17/2024 2:29:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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I wish I had a better view of the angle of shot necessary to hit the hydraulic line on the JCB forklift holding one of the speakers up. That line was hit in the first round of three shots from best I can tell and the machine appeared to be at an angle from the perch on the AGR roof that would have not been possible to hit unless it has been through the bleachers. The line was low since the hydraulic fluid spray came from a single elevation as the boom collapsed. The NTD video shows the hit on the forklift very clearly because the camera pans that way momentarily.

Until I could see the angle I speak of and am convinced the forklift hit was out of plane with the bleachers I can keep open the distinct possibility that there was at least a second assassin shooter. The third, C, that is mentioned here was the SS sniper taking the kid out with one shot?

13 posted on 07/17/2024 2:31:53 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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Was it someone inside the building shooting at Trump, knowing within seconds the patsy would be eliminated?

Knowing the evil running this government, at this point nothing would surprise me.

They all want Trump dead. It’s become inordinately clear and everyone knows it.


15 posted on 07/17/2024 2:32:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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3 weapons? Does that include the SS snipers?


16 posted on 07/17/2024 2:33:06 PM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore…)
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I don’t believe it. Considering how much of Trump’s body and head were exposed while the short SS lady was failing to cover Trump, that “other shooters” DID NOT take that opportunity to shoot him I’m calling BS.


18 posted on 07/17/2024 2:33:57 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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DO NOT believe this deliberate misinformation designed to make ANY questioning of the “official version” an alleged “conspiracy theory.”


22 posted on 07/17/2024 2:36:12 PM PDT by montag813
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But not a single video shows another shooter ..with all the cell phones recording the event?.


23 posted on 07/17/2024 2:36:15 PM PDT by Leep (Leftardism strikes 1 in )
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There are other crazy kook forums where this should be posted. Not here.


24 posted on 07/17/2024 2:36:25 PM PDT by McGruff (We're done talking about the debate. It's time to put Trump in the bullseye - Joe Biden)
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Let’s assume that the shooter really did use an AR-15 type rifle.

Is it possible to have ammo that sounds different, from the same rifle?

Say, 3 rounds of FMJ Military, and then 4 rounds of subsonic or ???

I have not done this experiment. I am curious.


27 posted on 07/17/2024 2:37:10 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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Everybody loves a conspiracy.


28 posted on 07/17/2024 2:37:43 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Are we sure the thugs and goons in the CIA aren’t just thowing out conspiracy theories because they think someone really does know something and they’re trying to bury that


31 posted on 07/17/2024 2:38:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump was NOT Hitler last time. He won't be a dictator this time. Democrats and the MSM lie. )
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I heard all those shots following the opening volley and interpreted it as the police/SS snipers returning fire.

I guess by the time they cover everything up we will never know.


38 posted on 07/17/2024 2:43:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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