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Did the pastor of your church speak about the assassination attempt?
7/14/24 | Me

Posted on 07/14/2024 8:32:22 AM PDT by heartwood

I was shocked that my pastor said nothing. It is a fairly conservative church in a very liberal, wealthy town full of influential people - many of them having some power to shape public discourse - not that those are necessarily church-goers.

But I expected prayers for peace, for the safety of leaders and candidates, for us as a nation to handle disagreements with reason, fairness, gentleness.


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To: exnavy

You might not, but others may. There are plenty of part time church goers or new believers that are looking for answers & need guidance from the pulpit.

Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.


21 posted on 07/14/2024 8:59:40 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: ealgeone; exnavy

It’s not a political church, and praying for the peace and good of the nation has nothing to do with politics.


22 posted on 07/14/2024 9:01:58 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Ken Regis

I emailed him.


23 posted on 07/14/2024 9:02:34 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

We spent first 15 min of our service praying for our leaders and nation.


24 posted on 07/14/2024 9:04:43 AM PDT by Babsig
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To: heartwood

Honestly I need to go back to church but a friend was disturbed last evening by all this.

I sent scripture to him Titus 3:3 reminding him that the Higher Power (Jesus) delivered us from being ‘enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another’.

We who follow Him don’t have to live in the Hellish mindset that led to the evil act last evening.


25 posted on 07/14/2024 9:05:18 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: heartwood
Old 46th

LCMS, we switched our processional hymn to "A Mighty Fortress," with Luther's reference above. We prayed for the nation, and for the wounded, and the families of the dead.

26 posted on 07/14/2024 9:10:52 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: heartwood

>I was shocked that my pastor said nothing.

Fired.


27 posted on 07/14/2024 9:11:27 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: heartwood

He did not. He has an expression.

“Mixing politics and religion is like mixing manure and ice cream. It doesn’t hurt the manure, but it ruins the ice cream.”


28 posted on 07/14/2024 9:13:14 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: exnavy

Putting your feet in the sand or marveling at a forest is much closer to God than a building.


29 posted on 07/14/2024 9:15:21 AM PDT by bgill
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To: heartwood

We had a guest speaker, so no mention was made.


30 posted on 07/14/2024 9:16:24 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: heartwood

However, our pastor is a strong Trump supporter.


31 posted on 07/14/2024 9:16:54 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: heartwood

He’s on vacation. Thank God.


32 posted on 07/14/2024 9:16:58 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: heartwood

UMC and yes. And only his second Sunday as a pastor.


33 posted on 07/14/2024 9:18:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: heartwood

I recently moved and have started going to a new church. The pastor said nothing. I may not go back, I’ll pray on it.


34 posted on 07/14/2024 9:19:12 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: heartwood

Ours did, specifically, talked about the evils of the world we live in, and tied the event to his sermon about prayer.

He is conservative and I could tell the event shook him.


35 posted on 07/14/2024 9:22:33 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: heartwood

Catholic Church, priest prayed for victims and end of violence, no mention of Trump, or violent speech. Disappointed.


36 posted on 07/14/2024 9:23:23 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: kenmcg

What did you expect? Bergoglio is his boss.


37 posted on 07/14/2024 9:24:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: heartwood

We could be in the middle of a nuclear war with bombs falling all around and you wouldn’t hear a peep.

So here’s a no.


38 posted on 07/14/2024 9:28:07 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: chajin

LCMS here too. We thanked God for keeping Trump safe, prayed for the families of the wounded and killed, and prayed that the anger that leads to such things would be removed.

The OT lesson about Amos and the plumb line was the basis of the sermon, with mentions also of how John the Baptist was killed for speaking God’s straight truth about the sin of Herod taking his brother’s wife. One of the hymns thanked God for His prophets who speak the truth amidst danger.

All that stuff was already chosen before the assassination attempt. I always listen carefully to the things that are chosen without knowledge of whatever was still going to happen, because those are messages from God, not manipulated by any person.

As Trump has now said, it was only God that kept “the unthinkable” from happening yesterday. The SS did their best to make sure that the assassination could happen. But God made sure Trump turned his head just enough at just the right time to keep Trump safe.

That was a message from God too. Our strength cannot save us. But God can, and He wills to save us - individually and as a people. Amos was told to get out of town because the Northern Kingdom of Israel didn’t want to hear that their king would be killed and the people sent into exile because of their total rejection of God and His plumb-line straight-up truth.

God says that if His people who are called by His name will repent and pray and turn from their wicked ways He will hear from Heaven and forgive our sin and heal our land.

I really, really hope that the close call that showed us both how vulnerable we are and how strong God is to help His own will bring all His people to recognize the murderous, satanic cabal that seeks to steal, kill, and destroy and uses lies to do it, and that we must reject that satanic deceit and plan, and trust God to deliver us.


39 posted on 07/14/2024 9:29:19 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: ealgeone
"Is church to worship God or discuss politics?"

You must be one of those people who believes that worship occurs only once a week in church. True worship of God should be taking place throughout the rest of the week in the way we conduct our lives. Church is a good place to receive guidance for doing so.

Occasionally, receiving guidance on how to comport ourselves in the world in which we live requires talking about the world in which we live.

40 posted on 07/14/2024 9:29:37 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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