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To: ChicagoConservative27
During this conversation, the dirt bike rider showed that he had a gun, Cram said. This is when a second officer discharged his weapon and hit the rider twice.

Seems justified.

2 posted on 06/17/2024 8:21:40 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: Rummyfan
Seems justified.

Not sure, he could have had a CCW and was just letting the officer know he was armed. Since the officer who was talking to him was not the one who used deadly force this could be a very unfortunate situation.

We need more information.

6 posted on 06/17/2024 8:27:13 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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What does “showed that he had a gun” mean? That sounds different than “pulled a gun on the officer”. If the gun was legally-owned and was not pulled on the officer but simply showed to him, why would it be justifiable to shoot the guy?


7 posted on 06/17/2024 8:29:15 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Rummyfan

Yep ... the police should shoot anybody who has a gun. No questions asked.


12 posted on 06/17/2024 8:49:26 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Rummyfan
I need more details. I was pulled over by State Troopers, one on each side of the car. They asked if I was carrying anything. I had a CCW. I said yes, and they asked where the gun was. It was easy as I could keep my hands on the wheel, and they could see the weapon on my hip when I adjusted my position. It's not so simple on a motorcycle. Did they ask the bike rider if he was carrying and where the gun was on his person? Was he threatening or complying?

Did the second officer panic and shoot?

17 posted on 06/17/2024 8:58:52 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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Showed he had != presented a threat. Lots of folks HAVE guns... in holsters.


22 posted on 06/17/2024 9:21:27 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Rummyfan

Need a lot more information than this story is sharing.


41 posted on 06/17/2024 9:53:21 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Rummyfan
Seems justified.

Depends.

If he was just informing the officer that he was carrying so he would not get shot then it is not justified.

The police are not allowed to shoot people just because they are carrying.

If he pulled it out and pointed it at the officer, justified.

50 posted on 06/17/2024 10:43:46 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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