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Americans sick of the 'cultural revolution' under Joe Biden are setting up incredible off-grid city in the DESERT hundreds of miles away from civilization with their own government and courts... and offer chilling prediction for the future of the country
Daily Mail ^ | 6/16/24 | Will Potter

Posted on 06/16/2024 4:45:22 PM PDT by Libloather

A community of society-shunning Americans launched a survivalist haven in the Utah desert after finding themselves alienated from the modern world.

Hundreds of people have set themselves up to live off the land under 'Operation Self-Reliance,' feeling that getting off-the-grid is the solution to a crumbling culture.

The commune was established by Philip Gleason, 74, a former general contractor who felt a calling to allow people to grow their own food, pump their own water and rely on nothing but themselves.

He admitted to Deseret News that while some choose to live there for environmental or health reasons, its intended purpose was to evade the 'craziness' of the modern world and the current political climate under the Biden administration.

'We seem to be undergoing a cultural revolution in the U.S.,' he said. 'When we first came out here, we thought it might be too far away... Now, with everything that's happening, we wonder if it's far enough.'

Residents at the OCR co-op in Riverbed Ranch in Juab County live almost entirely off-the-grid.

Tenants each buy their own two-acre plot, where their only choice is to grow all of their own food, as the estate has no municipal power system and no sanitation utilities.

A share of the co-op costs at least $35,000, but that is before residents need to fill the obligations Gleason mandates, including building your own home from scratch.

Residents must also build a barn, install a septic system, produce their own solar energy, dig a well to the freshwater dozens of feet below and build a greenhouse.

These costs, OCR's website admits, could run up at least another $235,000, which the organization blames on 'the Covid insanity driving the cost of building materials up significantly.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: desert; future; grid; revolution
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To: tet68

41 posted on 06/16/2024 7:01:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I found a place in a tiny, rural TN town (pop 2000) and moved there. That was two years ago, and it’s been a most positive experience.


42 posted on 06/16/2024 7:22:10 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

A cris McCandless episode in the making


43 posted on 06/16/2024 7:24:29 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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To: Libloather

bump


44 posted on 06/16/2024 7:33:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: metmom

“You’d think they’d go for a more well watered environment.”

the full article says a massive underground aquifer lies 80 below the surface of the entire site ... otherwise, building in the desert would be insane ...


45 posted on 06/16/2024 7:40:48 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: PeterPrinciple

two acres is plenty for a septic system ... the real trick for any co-existing well on such a small site is that it has to draw from an independent aquifer that is MUCH than the surface septic leach field, AND to make sure the well is cased, with the casing fully sealed by completely grouting it ...


46 posted on 06/16/2024 7:46:41 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: OKSooner

two acres is plenty for a septic system ... the real trick for any co-existing well on such a small site is that it has to draw from an independent aquifer that is MUCH than the surface septic leach field, AND to make sure the well is cased, with the casing fully sealed by completely grouting it ...

there are whole neighborhoods of “ranchettes” near me configured like that ...


48 posted on 06/16/2024 7:55:33 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: PeterPrinciple

two acres is plenty for a septic system ... the real trick for any co-existing well on such a small site is that it has to draw from an independent aquifer that is MUCH than the surface septic leach field, AND to make sure the well is cased, with the casing fully sealed by completely grouting it ...

there are whole neighborhoods of “ranchettes” near me configured like that ...


49 posted on 06/16/2024 7:56:03 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Clay Moore

Yes. It’s probably like that in most counties ... required distance.


50 posted on 06/16/2024 7:57:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: thesligoduffyflynns
finding out your chicken only lays one egg at a time and not in a cardboard box with 11 others will be a eye opener

Finding out the hard way that snakes love to frequent chicken coops.   Getting the nerve to crack the snake like a whip to snap their heads off, then realizing that's the best way to handle the problem, takes more nerve.

51 posted on 06/16/2024 8:10:05 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

You do that with rattlers?


52 posted on 06/16/2024 8:13:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: dragnet2

A casino would a good bet! ;)


53 posted on 06/16/2024 8:26:08 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pedge To Each Other, Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: ansel12
Ah, no.   I have never done it myself with any snake but relatives of the previous generations have.

Mom loved to tell a story on my Great Uncle, George, in Oklahoma.   Years before this he had let the rope wrap around his wrist while he was roping a steer and his hand was pulled off.   I remember he never said much and always kept the stump of his wrist tucked into the bib of his overalls.

One day he was helping Aunt Olive by getting some eggs in and found a snake there in the coop.   He grabbed the tail of the snake and took it outside, then just like cracking a bullwhip he drew his arm back, threw his arm forward like a pitcher in the major leagues and popped the head off of the snake.   But right at that moment, he felt something cold and wet fall down into his boot.

Well, he couldn't pull his boot off with only one hand, so he walked gingerly back to the house and got help to get his boot off.   They found it was just his pocket knife that had fallen through a hole in the pocket of his bib overalls.

54 posted on 06/16/2024 9:18:50 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

Lol, good story, I know some do it but rattlers are so quick.


55 posted on 06/16/2024 9:22:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Libloather

Well, they got out of the city, but they didn’t get away from the HOA.


56 posted on 06/16/2024 9:28:47 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

57 posted on 06/16/2024 9:50:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: CatOwner

Nailed it.


58 posted on 06/17/2024 12:47:56 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Libloather

Hidy hole for well healed trust funded babies.

Many of who likely pull down $40K an month. They have so much money they may not cash their checks for many months.


59 posted on 06/17/2024 3:51:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: catnipman
" the real trick for any co-existing well on such a small site is that it has to draw from an independent aquifer that is MUCH than the surface septic leach field, AND to make sure the well is cased, with the casing fully sealed by completely grouting it ..."

As I was saying... :)

60 posted on 06/17/2024 5:38:46 AM PDT by OKSooner (Divest from New York.)
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