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Windows 11 LTSC 2024 arrives making TPM and Secure Boot optional — lower storage requirements, too
Tom's Hardware ^ | May 26,2024 | Jeff Butts

Posted on 06/14/2024 10:05:58 AM PDT by fireman15

Windows 11 officialy squeezed within the confines of 16GB storage.

Microsoft has published the system requirements for Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024, which recently started to roll out. The specification will help steer design decisions for upcoming devices and computers running Windows IoT Enterprise. Lowered minimum specifications, with TPM and Secure Boot optional, are among the most interesting aspects of this release.

Windows 11 IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise intended for fixed-purpose devices like ATMs, point-of-sale terminals, digital signage, kiosks, and industrial automation systems, among others. In other words, this version of Windows is not for your desktop or laptop computer, but rather for custom appliance-type devices you might encounter or use that need an operating system. However, the release may also be of interest to makers, modders, and tinkerers.

Microsoft offers two licensing channels for Windows 11 IoT Enterprise, a General Availability Channel (GAC) and the Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC.) The LTSC option provides a 10-year support lifecycle for these fixed-purpose devices in which there are unlikely to be any functionality changes.

What’s most notable about the system requirements for Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 is that it can run on computing devices with much less storage than is typically required, as little as 16GB. Moreover, the TPM and Secure Boot requirements are optional for this version.

Additionally, Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC will support certain Qualcomm processors for the first time, in addition to AMD, Intel, and NXP processors. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC included support for AMD, Intel, and NXP processors, but not Qualcomm. This new support is expected since Microsoft recently announced Surface laptops using the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite Arm-based processor.

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To: fireman15

All three of my Windows 10 PCs have encountered a Windows Update error recently. Never had problems before. Odd timing.


21 posted on 06/14/2024 2:42:38 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: CatOwner

I hear ya. That’s why I’ll be keeping a Windows 7/Linux system around. I just like how programs behave on Windows 7 as opposed to Windows 10. However, I’ll have a Windows 10 (1909)/Linux system around too, just in case.


22 posted on 06/14/2024 3:50:57 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: McGruff
All three of my Windows 10 PCs have encountered a Windows Update error recently.

One of the recent updates required the recovery partition to be around 750Mb. Many Windows 10 installations have recovery partitions with around 500Mb. Most of the time it is not very difficult to resize this partition but of course users had to do some research to discover what was going on. I assume this idiocy has been corrected by now, but I don't know because the problem was fixed when I resized my recovery partitions. What would Windows be without this type of excitement?

23 posted on 06/14/2024 5:54:16 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15
My laptop is an Asus model sold through Costco. i7 CPU. 16 GB RAM. 1 TB NVME disk. It needed a BIOS update to successfully keep updating Windows 10. I pull it out infrequently. Time to charge and apply updates. I have it as a fallback when I retire and return my company laptop.
24 posted on 06/14/2024 6:26:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Still a Patriot
Widows 11 is not only full of security holes.... it is full of bloatware, spyware, and gathers PII from you whether or not you want it to.... forget you privacy if you install this opsys.

The vast majority of work that makes it into all of the major Linux Distributions is funded by corporate interests and it is often difficult to tell what their motivation is. It is not out of the goodness of their hearts.

The common wisdom is that most Linux distributions are more secure than Windows largely because their user bases are much smaller. 77% of desktop and laptop computers run Windows vs 2% running Linux. They are a much smaller target for hackers. Linux users also are typically more tech savvy than Windows users... and there are other reasons for security issues. But there is less accountability with those developing Linux distributions and they tend to take longer to react to newly discovered threats.

But the major security threats to most people are not their desktops and laptops, but their phones and tablets. Samsung and Google provide the longest support for their products... 5 to 7 years. But other manufacturers such as Motorola provide only 2 years and some provide security updates only as long as the model phone or tablet is being produced. Phones, which most people use for financial purposes and all sorts of communication are woefully insecure.

But of course, fishing scams are the primary way people's personal information is stolen and even the best of us fall for this type of crap on occasion.

This discussion could go on and on... Personally, I use Windows, Linux distributions my phones and Apple devices for what they are best at. No operating system is completely bulletproof.

25 posted on 06/14/2024 6:41:03 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15
The common wisdom is that most Linux distributions are more secure than Windows largely because their user bases are much smaller.

Sorry--Not the case.

Don't forget that while Windows has the majority of the user desktop market, Linux pretty much rules the datacenter and backends of many commercial/govt enterprises. The data Linux runs on/protects is MUCH more valuable than anything a desktop user may have.

While the user base may play a small part, it is not in fact the reason why Linux is more secure. It is more secure due to initial base design.

Windows started off as an app sitting on top of DOS. DOS itself was a single-user OS as it was designed before networking was a large concern, and before the basic end user even knew about networking (yes, networking existed, but was largely confined to educational institutions and commercial applications).

Due to the desire, or need, to maintain backward compatibility MS continued to build on that initial design philosophy. I'm not saying it was wrong, or bad (at the time), but it is what happened.

Linux, OTOH, was designed later on after multi-user systems were much more common. Given this different initial environment, basic design is a LOT different, with most decisions based on the multi-user aspect of the OS.

That is the main reason Linux is more secure. It's still not totally secure, but it is more secure.

26 posted on 06/14/2024 6:58:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is there anything better than the BSOD on your ATM machine...

I have not seen a BSOD screen on any of my Windows machines for years.

While it is true that Windows 11 Iot Enterprise is intended by Microsoft for devices other than desktops and laptops... The law of unintended consequences is already in play. People are already using it in desktops and laptops. It is bare bones but you can add what you need. The link I provided to Microsoft in my first post provides a 90 day free trial. Obtaining a license for Windows 11 IoT Enterprise is very easy and inexpensive from multiple sources.

27 posted on 06/14/2024 7:05:06 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Thanks. I’ll stick with my simple Arduino for tinkering and hobby work.


28 posted on 06/14/2024 8:20:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: ShadowAce

Yes, I am very aware of the history of Linux and Windows and also that Linux dominates the server market. I have mentioned many times previously that I setup nearly all of my computers to dual boot and that I use Linux for home server duties.

The types of malware designed to steal information from servers is not typically the same as malware designed to steal information from or screw up people’s personal desktops or laptops. The goals are different, the environment is different and the tools are different.

I also acknowledge that you are much more knowledgeable about Linux than I am. I nearly pinged you to this thread along with dayglored this morning; I was not sure that you would be interested.


29 posted on 06/14/2024 9:20:11 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15
I was not sure that you would be interested.

LOL!

Not particularly. I was bored and skimming through. Saw the comment, and just felt I had to butt in. :)

30 posted on 06/15/2024 7:34:11 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

I like to fool around with a wide variety of operating systems and software. Windows 11 LTSC 2024 is an interesting animal to me. I actually did have fun getting Windows CE devices to do more than what they were released to do. But Windows 11 is actually not a CE type derivative... it is more of a stripped-down version of the full animal.

I have it working in a virtual environment on a computer that does not meet Windows 11 minimum requirements, but I already had the full version working on the same machine both in a virtual environment and a “Windows to Go” external NVME drive so... that was no challenge.

So I spent part of the day trying to get Windows 11 LTSC 2024 to work on a 14-year-old Lenovo G5560 laptop with a Pentium P6200. Unfortunately, it didn’t work because of a driver issue. I am sure that I would be able to take care of this,,. but it is not actually worth the effort. It is a computer that I bought for $20 for parts years ago. It would just be a hoot to get it to run Windows 11 and see how well it handled it.


31 posted on 06/15/2024 7:38:36 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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