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Court: mRNA COVID Vaccines Not Vaccines
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Posted on 06/08/2024 8:05:13 AM PDT by cuz1961

Court: mRNA COVID Vaccines Not Vaccines

The 9th Circuit Court has ruled that mRNA Covid vaccines, developed by Pfizer and Moderna, are not vaccines, which removes their legal liability protection. This decision has sparked discussions about potential legal actions against these pharmaceutical companies, with some users expressing skepticism about the vaccines' effectiveness and safety. The ruling also raises questions about the classification of these shots and their implications for future litigation and public health strategies.


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To: exDemMom

So much fun to read the replies to your post. When is the next booster going to be available?


81 posted on 06/08/2024 1:56:34 PM PDT by TBall
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To: cuz1961
So substances that repeatedly fail clinical trials as therapeutics and are repackaged as vaccines aren't really vaccines? I'm shocked!
82 posted on 06/08/2024 2:05:11 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: edwinland

The original definition of vaccines included that they prevented infection (in the case of viruses, infection is when the virus replicates in the body). The most recent definition is that they merely promote an immune response. The average person who took the shot probably believed they were getting the former definition and that it would prevent infection. They were told that “breakthrough” infections would be rare.


83 posted on 06/08/2024 2:25:07 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: cuz1961

Finally, and they should allow everyone at NIH that raked in profits need to be sued as well. Hear that Fauxchi?


84 posted on 06/08/2024 2:51:25 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: JoeRed
You're thinking of the Merriam Webster debate, which included the element I described and the one you described, both changed. The CDC website also had its own definition of vaccine which was changed as I described.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/30/fact-check-merriam-webster-changed-vaccine-definition-accuracy/6354415001/

According to an archived version of the dictionary's website, Merriam-Webster formerly said a "vaccine" was "a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease."

The new definition of "vaccine", published in May, reads: "a preparation that is administered – as by injection – to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease."

85 posted on 06/10/2024 5:37:31 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: cuz1961; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; metmom; george76; fireman15

Confirmation of My 2021 Hypothesis that the Spike Protein Induces Accelerated Aging

A paper published June 9th, confirms the findings. This is an incredible danger of repeated exposure to the Spike Protein.https://t.co/U6KCeN8xl4 pic.twitter.com/rN5UosBjXx— Walter M Chesnut (@Parsifaler) June 10, 2024


86 posted on 06/10/2024 9:41:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
I am to accept at face value that judges are now better experts on what a vaccine is than the scientists who actually study vaccines?

I learned in the last few months that judges are now:

-PJ
87 posted on 06/10/2024 9:50:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

You make excellent points there.


88 posted on 06/10/2024 10:36:07 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: goodnesswins; exDemMom
A vaccine is only as good as the immune system of the person receiving it.
Sooo...that’s why govt insisted OLD people get it (more likely to have weaker immune systems)

Actually, the government insisted that OLD people get it because they misdiagnosed what was really going on. The "vaccine" had nothing to do with the real microbiology of COVID-19.

Old people produce much less glutathione than younger people. Glutathione is the "master antioxidant" that the body produces to fight off free radicals, that is, O2 in the blood that split into single O atoms that each loses an electron. This is called oxidation, and is a normal part of human metabolism.

The free radicals then join with hydrogen atoms to create H2O2, or hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide in the body is dangerous because it is typically used as a topical antiseptic or an industrial disinfectant. Internally, it will eat away at the body's organs until it causes organ failure. This is called oxidative stress, that is, free radicals that bond into hydrogen peroxide that then begin attacking the organs in the body.

The body's natural response to oxidation is glutathione. Glutathione attacks the hydrogen peroxide molecules and breaks them back down into H2O and O2, or water and oxygen. Seniors are susceptible to low levels of glutathione, so it is important for them to take supplements to keep their antioxidants up. The foods that naturally supply glutathione are not enough for the elderly metabolism in some cases.

Oxidative stress is what the hospitals were facing with the elderly who showed the first signs of COVID-19. They were being put on ventilators when their lungs began failing, but other organs were shutting down, too. Nobody understood why treatments weren't working, and people were dying.

It turns out that the COVID-19 virus spike protein was bonding with the endothelial cells that line the walls of the blood vessels (arteries, veins, and capillaries), specifically with the ACE2 receptors. The ACE2 receptors are what controls the body's production of glutathione. Once the virus took control of the endothelial cells and turned them into COVID-19 virus factories, the body stopped producing replacement glutathione and eventually the free radicals used up whatever glutathione was in the body and then began attacking the organs.

Knowing what we know now, a "vaccine" was unnecessary; simple treatments were enough to stop the spread of COVID-19. The biggest factor in the rapid spread of the virus was its five-day gestation period before symptoms were first noticed. The virus had a 5-day head start on the person. The best way then (and now) to stop COVID-19 is:

  1. Stop the virus from spreading within the body. This can be achieved by:

    • Taking Zinc + Quercetin (or hydroxychloroquine).

      Zinc stops the RNA in the cell from replicating. In infected cells, the virus's injected RNA is being replicated instead, and then the cell splits. Stopping RNA replication will stop the COVID-19 virus from spreading. The problem is that zinc cannot pass through the cell membrane. It needs a zinc ionophore to open a passage through the cell membrane for the zinc to enter. Quercetin and HCQ are both zinc ionophores.

    • Ivermectin was also said to stop the spread of the virus in the blood, but I'm not aware of the biology of how this happens.

  2. Rapidly build up the body's supply of glutathione to stop the oxidative stress from the buildup of hydrogen peroxide in the blood.

    • Various foods that supply glutathione have a low bioavailability, meaning they don't fully survive the body's digestive process. What is needed is a precursor to glutathione, something that the digestive process will pass through that will then turn into glutathione.

      The best precursor of glutathione is NAC, N-acetyl-cysteine. Taking NAC will build up the body's glutathione and eventually kill off the COVID-19 virus.

Doing the above two steps would have treated COVID-19 as nothing more than a bad flu, as the body just needed the time to build up is store of glutathione while the zinc stopped the virus from spreading within the body.

Interestingly, at the other end of the age spectrum it was the children who seemed to be unaffected by COVID-19. Scientists believe this is because children, being young and having immature immune systems, have a naturally occurring higher amount of interferon pre-staged in their bodies, especially in their lungs and bronchial tubes where infections are most likely to enter. Interferon is the part of the immune system that alerts the system that an intruder is present. It starts the immune process that fights off viruses. As children get older, this pre-staging of interferon stops.

Normally, interferon is not present and floating around in the blood (as it is with children). It is produced when the body signals that something is wrong. The body's signal to produce interferon is a fever. When body temperatures approach 102° F, interferon is produced to search out the culprit. However, COVID-19 spreads so quickly in the body that days pass before the body knows it's there and the immune system can respond. Children already have interferon present and the body is apparently killing off the COVID-19 virus before the 5-day gestation period completes.

A corroboration of sorts is that the countries that had the lowest death rates of COVID-19 were the Nordic and Scandanavian countries of western Europe, and Japan. These countries have a cultural history of taking hot baths and saunas, aka "Finnish Saunas" and hot springs. Socially, Finns would regularly sit in hot saunas for a period of time, then move to a cooler area to rest, and then go back to the sauna again. The Japanese would soak in body-deep tubs of hot water. They would do this for hours.

Scientists did tests on people taking Finnish Saunas and discovered that these "hot/cold" treatments were causing the body to produce interferon just as a fever would. This would suggest that these people were pre-staging interferon in their bodies just like the children were, and were stopping the virus during its gestation period before it could overwhelm the body with oxidative stress. This would serve as a general preventative measure if people had access to saunas, hot tubs, or even hot and cold showers.

The tl;dr bottom line is that we didn't need "vaccines" after all; all we needed were the means to give the body the time it needed to fight off the virus naturally. It was the scientists who panicked and the opportunists who took advantage of a crisis during an election year that pushed us down the road of experimental mRNA injections that ultimately didn't immunize the body from further occurrences and didn't stop the virus from spreading.

-PJ

89 posted on 06/10/2024 10:59:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cuz1961

AMAZED this came out of the 9th circuit, pigs just flew past my kitchen window!!!


90 posted on 06/10/2024 11:04:04 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: exDemMom
Sarcastic points, but so was yours. Judges have become the last defense of the Deep State.

However, in this case I'm not sure what the 9th circuit is up to. It's not like them to open up something as controversial as this is likely to get.

I would have expected the 9th to support the government-vaccine complex and declare the injections to be vaccines.

-PJ

91 posted on 06/10/2024 11:04:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Abraham Lincoln once asked an audience how many legs a dog has if you count the tail as a leg. When they answered ‘five,’ Lincoln told them that the answer was four. The fact that you called the tail a leg did not make it a leg.”

Would it still be wrong in that case if I said old Tripod had 4 legs? :D


92 posted on 06/11/2024 10:31:21 PM PDT by Zack Attack (✔)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Knowing what we know now, a "vaccine" was unnecessary; simple treatments were enough to stop the spread of COVID-19.

Regardless of the efficacy of treatment, the protection afforded by a vaccine is *always* preferable to catching the infection.

The effects of a virus infection are pleiotropic, meaning that they affect a number of different biological functions. First of all, viruses immediately disable the cells that they infect in order to turn them into virus factories. Once this occurs, the cell keeps producing virus until it bursts open to release the new virus particles. Later in infection, once the immune system has started to produce virus protein specific T-cells, B-cells, and antibodies, the immune system will destroy infected cells. This direct virus-caused damage occurs regardless of any oxidative stress that may be induced by spike protein mediated viral binding to ACE2 receptors.

Isolating one potential mechanism of harm by virus and focusing all treatment on that one mechanism while ignoring all of the other sources of harm won't help the patient. The goal of post-infection treatment is to provide supportive care which addresses all of the effects of the virus.

The only way to prevent direct tissue damage caused by the virus is to avoid infection. We do this with vaccines. For those who catch Covid, there is an antiviral treatment regime which, by inhibiting replication of virus, reduces the disease burden on the body while the immune system is working to produce antibodies.

TBH, this treatise on glutathione looks like something lifted from a website by a quack who wrote a whole pseudoscientific ad to sell "supplements."

If only getting over a Covid infection was as easy as taking a supplement.

93 posted on 06/12/2024 8:22:18 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
TBH, this treatise on glutathione looks like something lifted from a website by a quack who wrote a whole pseudoscientific ad to sell "supplements."

It came from the series of MedCram videos. MedCram's founder Dr. Seheult's CV is:

Dr. Seheult is currently an Associate Clinical Professor at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine, and an Assistant Clinical Professor at the School of Medicine and Allied Health at Loma Linda University.

Dr. Seheult is quadruple board-certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care Medicine, and Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine.

In 2012 he and Kyle Allred founded MedCram L.L.C., a medical education company with CME-accredited videos that are utilized by hospitals, medical schools, and hundreds of thousands of medical professionals from all over the world (and over 1 million YouTube Subscribers).

Here are the relevant videos that I drew from. I'm sorry if my summary of these videos is too infantile for you, but everything I wrote was backed by medical studies.


Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown

The role of Zinc ionophores (specifically Chloroquine) is explored further. A study that shows the absorption of zinc with and without chloroquine is included.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 35: New Outbreaks & Travel Restrictions, Possible COVID-19 Treatments

More on Hydroxychloroquine, and the role of Quercetin is explored as a Zinc ionophore. Includes a second study that compares absorption of zinc and chloroquine with zinc/hydroxychloroquine and zinc/quercetin to a control sample.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 61: Blood Clots & Strokes in COVID-19; ACE-2 Receptor; Oxidative Stress

Strokes in young patients is discussed, and the role that ACE2 receptors may be playing. Oxidative Stress is introduced.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 62: Treatment with Famotidine (Pepcid)?

Preview of focus change to oxidative stress from COVID-19 infection. Prior videos were from the point of view of COVID-19 as a lung disease, now believed to be a means to an end. Prior concepts are still foundational for the next discussions.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 63: Is COVID-19 a Disease of the Endothelium (Blood Vessels and Clots)?

Molecular biology revisited in terms of energy generation in the body. Oxidative Stress is explained in great detail. Glutathione antioxidant is introduced.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 65: COVID-19 and Oxidative Stress (Prevention & Risk Factors)

Molecular biology of superoxides as a result of COVID-19 infection of ACE2 receptors is reviewed.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 69: "NAC" Supplementation and COVID-19 (N-Acetylcysteine)

NAC and Glutathione is discussed as a means to reduce oxidative stress.


Coronavirus Pandemic Update 70: Glutathione Deficiency, Oxidative Stress, and COVID 19

Glutathione deficiency from oxidative stress is discussed.


MedCram Coronavirus Pandemic Update 46: Can Hot/Cold Therapy Boost Immunity? More on Hydroxychloroquine

Includes two studies on the changes in the immune system from repeated hot/cold immersion (AKA "Finnish Saunas").


Innate Immunity, Interferon, and COVID 19 in Children: Update 128

Includes a study on the "Pre-activated antiviral innate immunity of the upper airways" in children.


-PJ
94 posted on 06/12/2024 12:07:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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