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The Garden Thread - June, 2024
June 1, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 06/01/2024 6:22:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Liz

“TIP Freezes up to 6 months.”

...or ONE day, LOL!


281 posted on 06/20/2024 6:24:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL......wont last past the dessert course.


282 posted on 06/20/2024 8:29:21 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The ingredients got to me.......I confess.


283 posted on 06/20/2024 8:30:55 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: metmom

I spotted a nice size skink, at least 8” long I’d guess, in my main garden area a couple days ago. Still has his(?) original tail, too. That may be why I’ve had no slug damage this year.

However, I’ve now a problem with a raccoon or raccoons. It / they already got one of our 2 Maran hens last week. (Damn!) The rooster will often roost high in a tree, and occasionally a hen will follow suit, but much lower, instead of going in the hen house. I checked the tree, no hen or rooster, but evidently the rooster went in the henhouse and the hen stayed in a different tree / lower branch, and I missed it.

The coon didn’t.

Then last night, three of my tomato plants got dug up. They have an egg buried deep below them (almost a foot), from weeks ago, but, evidently there is still enough odor...

Said coon also dragged a milk jug full of layer pellets that got left out, about 15 ft. from the metal trash can it’s normally in, and under a bush, and then proceeded to TWIST OFF THE CAP (yes, it was tight!) and make a big mess. There are no bite marks on the jug or cap. (I found the cap on the ground another 10 ft. away.)

So... I have to set a couple traps tonight. I almost hope the coon doesn’t go in the “cage” type trap, as the last time that happened with a sizeable coon, it destroyed the entire “trip” mechanism, trying to get out. Better that the coon get in a foot trap, I shoot it, partially “dress” it, put it in a big pot and boil it, pull it apart a bit and give it to the chickens...

Until I get the coon(s), Mr. Skink best beware the coon(s)!

It’s ironic as we rescued some very weak abandoned coon kits almost a month ago, and went to a lot of trouble to get them to a rescue / rehab gal. The little kits are just adorable once they trust you, and more than a little “crazy”, but, good God, are the adults trouble in the wrong setting...


284 posted on 06/20/2024 2:05:11 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Does anyone know of a good source for pins (needles) for making up stringers for fishing? I have several old stringers that are actually fine except the pins are bad.

This would be useful for making up custom lengths, too. Somehow, most of my stringers are too long or too short for typical circumstances.

I suppose if worse came to worse, one could buy some stout 1/8” or 3/16”(?) brass or stainless steel tubing and go from there.


285 posted on 06/20/2024 2:54:21 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Liz

There are a LOT of great desserts made with ‘fake foods’ such as Cool Whip and Jell-O. I’m living proof that all of those preservatives have HELPED me through the years; I appear to have the half-life of a Twinkie! ;)


286 posted on 06/20/2024 5:29:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So we should call you Twink?


287 posted on 06/20/2024 5:32:04 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: Liz

I’ve been called worse. ;)


288 posted on 06/20/2024 7:26:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: MomwithHope

$600 for $125 is all I needed.

Of course each time I buy these things from ebay, I don’t get product support.

I just sent them an email to request some programming code to do something more advanced than their built in system and I had to be crafty to make it fit the one unit I did buy brand new from them.

I feel bad not buying all of it brand new but I feel worse being poorer. I’m sure I’ll be one of their most low maintenance customers.

Almond Agaricus spawn is arriving tomorrow so I have my weekend project. Gotta buy a couple bags of compost and lay it down in between a few mater plants and put chunks of spawn in them. Will set up some extra drip lines for them.

Lettuce/Tatsoi/Greens seeds just sprouted. It’s June 20th. If I can keep those alive and growing and add maters and have salad in 4-5 weeks aka late July, that’s something.

I’m one of those rebel, don’t tell me I can’t type of person. Even if I only get a few mid Summer salads this year in the mini garden, that means I can do it and do it bigger next year.


289 posted on 06/20/2024 8:00:39 PM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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To: Paul R.

Take a look at quilting pins and see if they are a good length. They are longer.


290 posted on 06/21/2024 3:42:33 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

I’m seeing “quilting pins” no more than 2” long. I would need something 5” to 6” long and at least partially hollow (like tubing) so I can pass the “string”* up into it), then crimp the “tube” onto the “string”.

*Usually the “string” 1/8” to 3/16” diameter, so, it is more like “cord” or light rope.

???

It sort of seems like my Mom had something almost like this for making Afghans, but IIRC (questionable) they were plastic and solid. But I may be thinking of something else.

Thanks.


291 posted on 06/21/2024 9:30:29 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This little guy looks like a great buy for serious gardeners.

Aerocart 8-In-1 Yard Cart / Wheelbarrow / Dolly

There are also other accessories like a snow plow, and a wheel kit to make it a wagon.

292 posted on 06/21/2024 11:28:34 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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293 posted on 06/21/2024 1:38:21 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Paul R.

How skinny of a tube?


294 posted on 06/21/2024 2:48:33 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Paul R.

I am an old crafter so I went for that area. But there are other options. Look at these, hollow. Or I marked some other links. https://www.microgroup.com/product/304h17s/?te_bu=Med&te_type=srch&te_campaign=ggl_usa_med-ggl-usa-srch-fy24-medsmb-mgs-shop-metal_sma-2997_5&elqCampaignId=194693&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4PjAU2s7NUW1L-VZ3bJnnh5GDbVtC8Pke8C7ffafxrpSfVfsn6xYjBoCSDUQAvD_BwE


295 posted on 06/21/2024 3:00:44 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

https://www.almanac.com/content/full-moon-june

The “Strawberry” Moon

The Solstice Full Moon owes its strangeness to yet another little-known lunar reality: the Full Moon is opposite the Sun in all respects. It rises just as the Sun is setting, and it sets when the Sun rises. At midnight, when the sun is lowest down, the full Moon is highest up.

Since the 2024 June full Moon happens on the solstice, the very day the Sun is absolutely at its highest of the year, this month’s full Moon on the 21st is the very lowest full Moon, indeed, the lowest we’ve seen in years. Just look at it! Because the Moon is so low, it will appear bigger than ever. This is called the “Moon Illusion.”

Since we’re in daylight time, the middle of the night is now 1 AM, so check out the full moon when it’s at its loftiest position of the night. It’s barely up at all! From places like Fairbanks and Rekyavik, this Full Moon won’t even clear their horizon. It won’t rise at all. For them, June will simply have no full Moon.

So we’ve got a paradox coming. The Full Moon usually is our brightest night. But this month, it ascends so little that the thick horizon air will give it an orange-red hue and subdue its light. Moreover, its extreme southerly position will keep it aloft for a few short hours, leaving that night mostly black. Don’t miss this extra-low, extra-big, colorful full Moon for a few precious hours.


296 posted on 06/21/2024 3:50:54 PM PDT by Qiviut (Forced obedience to obvious lies is the essence of totalitarianism-the ultimate flex for psychopaths)
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To: Qiviut
Great addition! :)

If I can stay up past 9pm tonight, I'll let you know what 'Luna' is doing as viewed from 'The Frozen Tundra.'


297 posted on 06/21/2024 4:22:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard
Well I do not feel one bit bad about having bought new or used Control By Web products from ebay now. They won't give me some sample code because:

John, Thank you for contacting technical support. This could likely be done within a basic script on the X-420. However, due to the limited recourses for our free technical support we are not able to write a script of this complexity for you. This is also because it is important that you understand how your system works because we cannot directly observe the behavior of your equipment in order to troubleshoot future issues.

Bold text by me. It went on from there but they never did come out and say that they would help me, with a cost. So I guess what they really mean is that I'm a small fry DIY purchaser so they can't be bothered. They want big purchases with a consultation and support contract to go with it.

The script is not that complex, to someone that knows coding.

Open a window all the way when it gets over 80 degrees. Close it when it gets below 65 degrees. That can be done with built in menus.

Only open it half way OR if it's already open, close it half way; if the wind speed is over 40 mph. Cannot be done in the menu system and is all I wanted to know.

They referred me to their BASIC programming language tutorial/reference and also attached a text file with some code to do something totally unrelated to what I want. What a snub.

I'll figure it out eventually.

298 posted on 06/21/2024 4:23:38 PM PDT by Pollard (Will work for high tunnel money!)
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To: Qiviut

Beau and Emma Jolene have a UKC Hunt tonight, so I told him to keep an eye out for Luna, too - if he can see it. They’re usually deep into the woods for raccoon hunting (just hunting, no shooting!) so maybe he’ll see something magical at Moon Rise tonight, too.

It should be happening right now slated for 8:23 pm. :)


299 posted on 06/21/2024 6:24:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

The moon came up over the Blue Ridge mountains looking huge & orange - it was gorgeous! I tried taking a picture, but with a phone camera, it doesn’t show those features.

Sitting on the back patio having my morning coffee. There is no ‘cool’ morning air - excessive heat warnings are in effect. I am not working outside although I have projects & mowing to do. I found out where the local farmer’s market meets, but I am not inclined to get out there with lots of people in the heat.

Inside project: holiday canning! Last year, I caught a sale on cranberries ... 50 cents a bag after the holiday - can’t remember the regular price, but it was between $2.50 & $3.00. I bought 6 bags & they have been in the freezer. There is a recipe for Cranberry Apple Preserves in the Ball book: 1 lb. of cranberries, 3 Granny Smith apples peeled & chopped, one orange, including peel, chopped up fine (in food processor). I saw the recipe on a blog with a reference back to the Ball book - it’s supposed to be delicious per Mavis:

“Cranberry Apple Jam with a Hint of Orange = Perfection.

With cranberries, apples and a little orange, this is the jam you need to have on hand for the day after Thanksgiving to slather all over the leftover bits of turkey goodness. Seriously, this stuff is amazing!

Not only will your house smell fantastic while it’s simmering away on the cook top, this recipe for cranberry apple jam with a hint of orange would be a delicious gift to give around the holidays. It’s simple PERFECT for this time of year.

Heck, if you really want to be the hostess with the mostess, make a batch and send them home with a jar!~Mavis”

Check out her blog under the “canning” section - she has a ton of recipes for jellies, jams, sauces, pickles, tips on dehydrating various veggies & herbs, etc.

Project #2: working on a prayer shawl for a cousin’s wife. She had breast cancer 3? years ago & early this year, was diagnosed with colon cancer. She’s been getting chemo every 2 weeks (2 days straight when she gets it). I do not have internet here (available but not connected to avoid a bill here & back at the other house) so I have to use ‘data’ & I try to use it sparingly. I download podcasts at home via wifi & play them here in the evening - perfect for knitting time.

Our new kitchen table & chairs were delivered yesterday & it all fits the space beautifully & looks good, too. Now, if I can just get mom to the point she is ready to move so I can get a mover for the furniture we need to bring with us!


300 posted on 06/22/2024 5:06:47 AM PDT by Qiviut (Forced obedience to obvious lies is the essence of totalitarianism-the ultimate flex for psychopaths)
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