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THE US AID PACKAGE TO UKRAINE IS TO PAY FOR A PRIOR SECRET DELIVERY OF WEAPONS
US Ukr Package Falls Short; Rus Advance Accelerates, Ukr Admits Retreats; China Tough On Blinken - Y ^ | Alexander Mercouris

Posted on 04/25/2024 12:26:02 PM PDT by BEJ

The aid package is to pay for a prior secret delivery of weapons. This closes the account with Ukraine. No more weapons unless Ukraine will pay for them. Yes, an ungrateful, entitled Zelinsky will demand and shriek for more weapons, but it seems Ukraine will to have to pay.

https://youtu.be/zmvKlkZmaoI

18:37 US aid package for Ukraine may not significantly impact the war.

21:22 The $23.2 billion US aid package is primarily covering military supplies already provided to Ukraine.

26:59 Limited information on US military assistance to Ukraine


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KEYWORDS: killkillkillforpeace; mic; neoconslovebiden; uketards; ukraine; ukrainecorruption; welfarewar
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To: PGR88

Yup.


21 posted on 04/25/2024 2:29:53 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Liz

“All this for a damn flag?”


22 posted on 04/25/2024 2:31:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 21twelve

This news is not necessarily going to go down well with the taxpayers.

If we’ve got a lend/lease program going with Ukraine the taxpayers should’ve been informed about it long before now.


23 posted on 04/25/2024 2:35:25 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: BEJ

So the MIC extends credit and gets paid promptly while the taxpayer’s Grandchildren get screwed and will never get paid back.

Shut this Con Game down...


24 posted on 04/25/2024 3:17:29 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: BEJ

Looks like Zelensky has shot his wad.


25 posted on 04/25/2024 4:07:41 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: PGR88
Wasn’t Oliver North sentenced to 3 years in prison for this during Iran-Contra?

He wasn't a Democrat.

26 posted on 04/25/2024 4:23:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: BEJ

Makes one wonder what else they are not disclosing.


27 posted on 04/25/2024 5:03:11 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: caver

The money goes to replenish the arms we have already sent. People get work here (supposedly).


28 posted on 04/25/2024 6:24:44 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: McGruff

Exactly!


29 posted on 04/25/2024 6:25:07 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: tennmountainman

Yeah, I hear he owns eight houses. If he cares about Ukraine, mortgage or sell a couple of houses for the war effort.


30 posted on 04/25/2024 6:26:40 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: Openurmind

Yes, indeed!


31 posted on 04/25/2024 6:27:25 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: convoter2016

That’s true. I think there were still some arms shipped, but not a lot.


32 posted on 04/25/2024 6:30:55 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

All the talk about loans is BS.

Ukraine can’t pay it back.

We know they can never pay it back.

We give them the weapons and money now and later we “forgive” the debt.

But those lying politicians (who know this) that are approving this money today appear more reasonable and moderate, middle of the road type of guys and get to do what they want without quite as much controversy and push back.

Just eyewash for the ignorant masses.


33 posted on 04/25/2024 9:17:52 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Openurmind

You got it.

It’s a joke.

We are NEVER getting anything back. All this talk about this being loans is no more than a game with words to not feel so much push back by a public that had enough with all this war spending.

How is Ukraine going to pay this back? With an economy that shrunk by >37%, their currency becoming worthless, with them not even able to pay their federal employees and retirements without our aid?

The term “loan” makes it sound better. That’s all it is.

Eventually we will forgive this debt.


34 posted on 04/25/2024 9:23:56 PM PDT by Red6
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To: convoter2016

ATACMS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-140_ATACMS#:~:text=It%20uses%20solid%20propellant%2C%20is,190%20miles%20(300%20km).

According to Wikipedia: Depending on what we give them, 190 miles.
, 300 km.

But it was my understanding that this system, at least what we have, has a range of 450km. 1.5 times what Wikipedia claims. Maybe I’m wrong... That’s the number that sticks in my head, but it’s been a while.


35 posted on 04/25/2024 9:29:47 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

Yup!


36 posted on 04/25/2024 9:30:59 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: PGR88

So Biden and the deep-state were sending weapons to Ukraine, unauthorized by Congress?

...and then telling us Ukraine was losing because they weren’t getting weapons?


37 posted on 04/26/2024 1:13:05 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Red6

“Eventually we will forgive this debt.”

Yep, sure will.


38 posted on 04/26/2024 3:31:01 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: BEJ
The money goes to replenish the arms we have already sent. People get work here (supposedly).

If so, that's a rock solid guarantee that very soon Zelenskyy will be back begging for more, and he will probably get it.

39 posted on 04/26/2024 3:37:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: BEJ; All
Alexander Mercouris is a disbarred lawyer. He is citing Jack Rasmus as his well known expert.

When anyone fails to hold back laughing when claiming the expert is one of the best experts, that's never a good sign. More so when the person using the expert has no credibility.

Just who is Jack Rasmus and what does he believe?

Let's look at what he said about the 2020 election: How Could 70 Million Still Have Voted for Trump? November 7, 2020:

Media pundits and others have been deeply perplexed as to why so many Americans in this election–70 million in fact– nonetheless voted for Trump.

But it’s not all that difficult to understand. There are 3 major explanations: One economic. One health. And the third, and most important, a matter of culture and racism manipulated by clever politicians for the past quarter century at least.

...This fear is the foundation of his—and their—white nationalism which is really a form of racism. So too is their anti-immigration. It is anti-immigration directed against people of color–whether latinos, blacks, muslims or whomever. White European heritage, small town, rural, evangelical, small business ‘heartland’ of the south & midwest America sees ‘their America’ disappearing or at least having to share more equally with people of color America. The latter are now almost equal in population to White Europeans but are not equal politically or economically. They are knocking on the door and want in. They want their equal share.

...Pit the one against the other, while they–those of wealth and power–continue to ‘pick the pockets’ of both. That was, and remains, Trump’s strategy in a nutshell. It’s also the strategy of his wealthy backers. It’s the age old American ruling class racism ‘shell game’. Just now in the form of ‘old wine in new bottles’, as they saying goes. ‘America First’ means in effect White America of his political base comes first.

This was before the 2020 steal was obvious to anyone who could download the vote spreadsheets, perform basic Excel operations and find funny numbers. To Rasmus, Trump is just perpetuating the same problems of rich and powerful versus everyone else, appealing to his voter's inherent racism.

I don't think Mercouris is citing a conservative intellectual icon like Thomas Sowell here.

40 posted on 04/28/2024 9:12:56 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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