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To: butterdezillion

Where do I find legal confirmation from the HI DOH that there is no valid BC for Obama in HI? Three letters of “verification “ that were not certified is not verification that they have no valid BC there, or confirmation of anything.

I don’t mean to ridicule anyone and don’t believe that I have done so. I do think we have different definitions of “facts”.


99 posted on 04/25/2024 11:39:32 AM PDT by Kathy in OC
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To: Kathy in OC

According to HI statute, the HDOH MUST give a certified letter of verification to a qualified requestor, verifying any requested information that is contained on a valid HI BC.

Why do YOU think they gave 3 non-certified letters in response to 3 separate qualified requestors - including one that they knew would be submitted in a court of law?

Why would they do that, other than the only legal reason to do it? Three times is very deliberate, this isn’t a “mistake”. Why do YOU say they did it?


100 posted on 04/25/2024 12:01:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Kathy in OC

You have not ridiculed me and I appreciate that. But you are the exception.

The HDOH official responses are supposed to be certified so that these are claims made under penalty of perjury. It’s like putting themselves under oath.

The statute requires the department to basically put itself under oath, which is why their documents are to be accepted in other states.

The only allowable reason for them to fail to state, under oath, that Obama was born in Hawaii is if they have no prima facia evidence on which to base a claim that he was. A valid BC is prima facia evidence; if they had one for Obama they are required to swear under oath that he was born there.

What the HDOH basically did was to refuse to take an oath in a court of law - while slapping on a non-legal “seal” to make it look like they DID swear on penalty of perjury that Obama was born there.

If they had the discretion to just ignore some requests for certified verification their refusal would just mean that they haven’t certified that they have a BC for him. But they don’t have that discretion legally. The only lawful reason to refuse to certify a letter of verification to a qualified requestor is if they CAN’T because they have no prima facia evidence to substantiate a verification. The failure to certify a verification is confirmation that they have no prima facia evidence that Obama was born there.


101 posted on 04/25/2024 12:13:42 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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