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To: Kathy in OC

You have not ridiculed me and I appreciate that. But you are the exception.

The HDOH official responses are supposed to be certified so that these are claims made under penalty of perjury. It’s like putting themselves under oath.

The statute requires the department to basically put itself under oath, which is why their documents are to be accepted in other states.

The only allowable reason for them to fail to state, under oath, that Obama was born in Hawaii is if they have no prima facia evidence on which to base a claim that he was. A valid BC is prima facia evidence; if they had one for Obama they are required to swear under oath that he was born there.

What the HDOH basically did was to refuse to take an oath in a court of law - while slapping on a non-legal “seal” to make it look like they DID swear on penalty of perjury that Obama was born there.

If they had the discretion to just ignore some requests for certified verification their refusal would just mean that they haven’t certified that they have a BC for him. But they don’t have that discretion legally. The only lawful reason to refuse to certify a letter of verification to a qualified requestor is if they CAN’T because they have no prima facia evidence to substantiate a verification. The failure to certify a verification is confirmation that they have no prima facia evidence that Obama was born there.


101 posted on 04/25/2024 12:13:42 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

There you are.

Loretta not available.


102 posted on 04/25/2024 12:17:39 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: butterdezillion

OK, what was the capacity of the person/entity who made the request? Were they a qualified requestor? Where can I see the letters you refer to? They must be out there somewhere, right? Here if you request a copy and are not a qualified requestor you can receive an informational certified copy. What I’m trying to find out from you is who was the qualified requestor, and what was their relationship to Obama that made them a qualified requestor?


104 posted on 04/25/2024 12:31:10 PM PDT by Kathy in OC
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