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To: CharlesOConnell
I highly recommend that if you happen to catch Covid, avoid this unscientific and untested "protocol."

Of course, Dr. Z was able to claim that he only saw one death among 7,000 patients. That's because the patients following his "protocol" whose illness got worse ended up in the hospital and were no longer his patients.

There are only two ways to prevent catching a viral disease. One way is to completely avoid exposure. If the virus spreads through the respiratory route, the only surefire way to avoid exposure is to stay indoors where all the air is filtered. The other way is to get vaccinated. This way depends on how well your immune system functions (if you have a disease that impairs immune function, you won't be as protected), but it gives you a great deal of freedom as compared to remaining in isolation.

Quercetin and (hydroxy)chloroquine are not interchangeable. They each interact with different proteins in the body and they have different structures:

Structure of (H)Cl. The addition of oxygen on the end (the "hydroxy" addition) makes the molecule more water soluble.

Structure of quercetin.

They simply are not the same or even similar.

The graphic claims that zinc cannot get into cells. This is completely untrue. There is an entire class of proteins called "zinc finger proteins" that interact with DNA. How would those proteins exist if zinc does not enter cells? In the real world, where scientists live, any substance that increases the uptake of zinc into cells would be a serious toxicity concern. No scientist would make such a recommendation without a serious body of evidence to support it.

As for antiviral properties of quercetin plus vitamin C, I found this one paper: Quercetin and Vitamin C: An Experimental, Synergistic Therapy for the Prevention and Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 Related Disease (COVID-19). (www.pubmed.gov search conducting using term "quercetin AND vitamin c viral.") Judging by the fact that this paper is only a review--meaning that its purpose is to summarize a body of research on the subject--and there are no follow-on study publications, I surmise two things. One, that this review was written in conjunction with a research grant application for pre-clinical studies. Two, that in vitro and in vivo (animal) studies did not pan out. I would never suggest a human treatment protocol based only on a literature review without extensive studies to back it up.

The recommendation of 5,000 U of vitamin D per day is excessive. Since vitamin D is fat soluble, excesses are not eliminated rapidly. Taking that much vitamin D can lead to the buildup of toxic quantities of vitamin D in the body. The safest way to take vitamin D is on the advice of your doctor who tells you an appropriate dose based on your serum levels. It's not safe to take mega doses of vitamin D (or anything else) just because you read something on the internet or saw it in some "health guru" book.

Finally, I will say that I commend the addition of a warning to dilute the hydrogen peroxide. I would never use H2O2 for anything except topical use; I don't want to breathe any more of it than I am exposed to when I open the H2O2 bottle. H2O2 is an oxidant with broad antimicrobial properties due to its toxicity.

11 posted on 04/22/2024 10:23:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
There are only two ways to prevent catching a viral disease. One way is to completely avoid exposure. If the virus spreads through the respiratory route, the only surefire way to avoid exposure is to stay indoors where all the air is filtered. The other way is to get vaccinated.

Proving the Jim Jones Jab isn't a vaccine because people who took it still got COVID-1984.

The third way to prevent catching a viral disease is to have natural immunity from beating one of it's related strains. People who were exposed to SARS COVID in 2003 still had the antibodies in 2019.

The Branch Covidians suppressed the truth about natural immunity.

13 posted on 04/22/2024 11:08:57 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: exDemMom

ROTFLMAO.

“If the virus spreads through the respiratory route, the only surefire way to avoid exposure is to stay indoors where all the air is filtered. “

Wrong. Incomplete. Thats not surefire as you failed to mention eliminating exposure via other people entering said environment. Lazy.

You praise Fauci on other posts.

You have no idea how medical professionals can all collude on the covid topic (hint:government influence and financials)

You claim you’re a specialist.

You’re, by self admission, a ex-dem.


If you claim to be a medical professional post-covid you have got a LONG road ahead of you if you expect me, and the majority of Americans to trust A SINGLE DAMN THING YOU SAY. Corruption, arrogance, greed and fear mark the professionals in your field. Dartmouth Hitchcock is an excellent example of the douchebags in the medical field currently.

Many of the flunkies that I witnessed dropping out of engineering did quite well in medical school. I shake my head at the idiots that succeed there.

I’ve never been dim enough to subscribe to collectivist/democrat theology, but appearantly you were, and still do, following the disease of collectivism, intellectual and political blindness.

Hope I never have need of any care or research conclusions you are supplied with.


14 posted on 04/22/2024 11:25:11 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: exDemMom
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Virus Prophylaxis and Treatment, exDemMom wrote:

I highly recommend that if you happen to catch Covid, avoid this unscientific and untested "protocol."

Of course you would recommend against the protoccol so many successfully used throughout Covid, and of course you would lie and say it was 'unscientific and untested'. Search the web for a few seconds and learn that Querciten and Zinc work together quite well and have properties beneficial to many forms of illness. Here's one of the studies re Zinc/Quercetin and Vitamin C

Adv Virol. 2022; 2022: 1575605.
Published online 2022 Jun 8. doi: 10.1155/2022/1575605
PMCID: PMC9200564

PMID: 35721668

The Anti-Cytokine Storm Activity of Quercetin Zinc and Vitamin C Complex

Of course, Dr. Z was able to claim that he only saw one death among 7,000 patients. That's because the patients following his "protocol" whose illness got worse ended up in the hospital and were no longer his patients.

You just flat made that up. You, an anonymous source just made up lies against a man who saved lives and put his face/name/reputation next to his recommendations. But back-biters like you are plentiful, and never put your name and credentials next to your 'recommendations' and lies.

There are only two ways to prevent catching a viral disease. One way is to completely avoid exposure. If the virus spreads through the respiratory route, the only surefire way to avoid exposure is to stay indoors where all the air is filtered.

You're not even trying. Who said 'all the indoor air is filtered'? No one. Indoor air is often inferior to outdoor air because indoors, chemicals used in manufacturing and cleaning, in addition to viruses and bacteria in/on other people and the items they bring into the home, are all concentrated and breathed, and rebreathed. That's why radon is worse indoors than outdoors - it's trapped.

The other way is to get vaccinated. This way depends on how well your immune system functions (if you have a disease that impairs immune function, you won't be as protected), but it gives you a great deal of freedom as compared to remaining in isolation.

We all watched the vaccinated get Covid again and again and again - you're one of the few who are still trying to claim the 'vaccine' will prevent infection.

Quercetin and (hydroxy)chloroquine are not interchangeable. They each interact with different proteins in the body and they have different structures:

Structure of (H)Cl. The addition of oxygen on the end (the "hydroxy" addition) makes the molecule more water soluble.

Structure of quercetin.

They simply are not the same or even similar.

They don't need to be the same or even similar. Quercetin and Zinc work together well to mitigate Cytokine storm and other aspects of illness, and improve absorption of Zinc.

From the article, "Quercetin, like HCQ, is a zinc ionophore which allows a rapid increase in intracellular zinc levels. "

The graphic claims that zinc cannot get into cells. This is completely untrue.

SOME zinc is not absorbed by SOME cells, and Quercetin helps. So to improve Zinc uptake, some people take Quercetin. For those taking supplements, the advice is usually to take Zinc supplements with food to improve absorption.

There is an entire class of proteins called "zinc finger proteins" that interact with DNA. How would those proteins exist if zinc does not enter cells? In the real world, where scientists live, any substance that increases the uptake of zinc into cells would be a serious toxicity concern. No scientist would make such a recommendation without a serious body of evidence to support it.

Drama much? Taking Zinc supplements with food improves absorption, and scientists have yet to panic.

As for antiviral properties of quercetin plus vitamin C, I found this one paper: Quercetin and Vitamin C: An Experimental, Synergistic Therapy for the Prevention and Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 Related Disease (COVID-19). (www.pubmed.gov search conducting using term "quercetin AND vitamin c viral.")

You didn't look much - just a glance and you found one paper?

Judging by the fact that this paper is only a review--meaning that its purpose is to summarize a body of research on the subject--and there are no follow-on study publications, I surmise two things. One, that this review was written in conjunction with a research grant application for pre-clinical studies. Two, that in vitro and in vivo (animal) studies did not pan out.

ALL OF THE ANIMAL STUDIES OF THE mRNA platform 'didn't pan out' because the animals sickened/died. mRNA never protected a single human from illness in the run up to the plandemic because mRNA 'vaccines' were a) gene therapy and b) never made it past animal trials to be tested on humans.

I would never suggest a human treatment protocol based only on a literature review without extensive studies to back it up.

But you're here pushing an experimental an inadequately test gene therapy. I say that because the FTC filing for the Covid 'vaccines' stated that these were gene therapy but would be allowed to be marketed as 'vaccines' in order to avoid 'vaccine hesitancy'.

Japan refused to purchase the 'vaccine' until an industry standard test assessing bioaccummulation was performed on the Covid 'vaccines. That test takes 24 hrs but was never done until Japan balked at purchase. You're in favor of suggesting 'vaccines' without extensive studies, or even industry standard studies. You even suggest people take these 'vaccines' despite all the known problems coming to light, in addition to it's failed history prior to the plandemic.

The recommendation of 5,000 U of vitamin D per day is excessive. Since vitamin D is fat soluble, excesses are not eliminated rapidly. Taking that much vitamin D can lead to the buildup of toxic quantities of vitamin D in the body. The safest way to take vitamin D is on the advice of your doctor who tells you an appropriate dose based on your serum levels. It's not safe to take mega doses of vitamin D (or anything else) just because you read something on the internet or saw it in some "health guru" book.

I don't know if anyone ever told you, but Vitamin D is commonly sold in unit of 5,000 U. Seems like you need to rush around and tell the industry not to sell those supplements. You should probably tell the public that if they follow your toxic advice and stay indoors to avoid exposure, they won't get enough sunlight to produce Vitamin D- just a thought.

Finally, I will say that I commend the addition of a warning to dilute the hydrogen peroxide. I would never use H2O2 for anything except topical use; I don't want to breathe any more of it than I am exposed to when I open the H2O2 bottle. H2O2 is an oxidant with broad antimicrobial properties due to its toxicity.

Too many people on FR know more than you do for you to have much of an impact trying to steer the public to the 'vaccines'.


38 posted on 04/24/2024 12:10:18 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: exDemMom
There are only two ways to prevent catching a viral disease. One way is to completely avoid exposure. If the virus spreads through the respiratory route, the only surefire way to avoid exposure is to stay indoors where all the air is filtered. The other way is to get vaccinated. This way depends on how well your immune system functions (if you have a disease that impairs immune function, you won't be as protected), but it gives you a great deal of freedom as compared to remaining in isolation.

You're wrong. WAY early in this episode, the spouses of many of those infected, on board the cruise ship Diamond Princess, shared the exact same cabins, could not have been jabbed since the jabs didn't exist yet, but never got sick.

Dingbat.

72 posted on 04/27/2024 10:26:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
The safest way to take vitamin D is on the advice of your doctor who tells you an appropriate dose based on your serum levels.

Ka-ching!!

It's not safe to take mega doses of vitamin D (or anything else) just because you read something on the internet or saw it in some "health guru" book.

"Y'all are not a horse. Seriously, stop it."

76 posted on 04/27/2024 10:59:16 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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