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1 posted on 04/05/2024 1:06:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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“But when it is too complex for a student to complete even with parent support, it raises the question as to why it was set as a homework task in the first place”

In other words it is not homework that is the problem, it is homework that was set at the wrong level.


2 posted on 04/05/2024 1:09:30 PM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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“The last thing teachers want to do is disadvantage girls“

And there it is.


3 posted on 04/05/2024 1:10:48 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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My daughters are out of college now, but 15 years ago they brought home textbooks and methods that made my physics major brain swim with a complete and abject ignorance of whatever it was they were trying to do.

I wasn’t allowed to teach them my way or they’d have been penalized for not following the method taught. I apologized to them and said I can solve the problem, but not using the method they want you to...because to me it’s much less efficient.

They got through...but I could tell for a period they thought I might not be as smart as they originally gave me credit for...which is exactly what I think the point is.


4 posted on 04/05/2024 1:10:55 PM PDT by reed13k
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They don’t want parents to know what they are teaching them.


5 posted on 04/05/2024 1:12:21 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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Lol my kids went to Mom for help with the math. They definitely didn’t ask me because they wanted a semblance of accuracy.


7 posted on 04/05/2024 1:14:28 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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In my day, it seemed as if they were teaching to the smartest kids in the class. The rest of us had to keep up.


8 posted on 04/05/2024 1:16:04 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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That new math again. It’s a problem.


11 posted on 04/05/2024 1:21:54 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Homework is all stupid. If you can’t get it done in 8 hours of “education” five days a week, it isn’t necessary.

Our kids were homeschooled. Their school was 2-3 hours a day normally, sometimes more sometimes less. Among my kids, the Astronautical Engineer and the Book editor may choose to disagree with the need for hours of homework.


13 posted on 04/05/2024 1:24:59 PM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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Homework nowadays is about getting the kids to do all their learning of the core subjects at home, while the school hours are meant for the teachers to indoctrinate the kids with their progressive/liberal/communist/DEI big government requirements. Indoctrination takes precedence.


16 posted on 04/05/2024 1:39:57 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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funny how for hundreds of years kids learned the same arithmetic the same way, now they can’t... what’s changed???


17 posted on 04/05/2024 2:06:14 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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The problem with ‘publik skoolz’ math is that ‘twould appear that it was oozed from the feeble brains of ‘eddikashun majors’. Sorry, but I’d take the old math teachers of the mid 20th century over any of the tripe that currently exists.


18 posted on 04/05/2024 2:13:32 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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I was a rebel. I taught them real math and told them to solve that way and pretend to use new math if teacher asked.
After I explained to my son’s 2nd grade teacher that he needed to add up his groceries in his head before he got to check out to be sure he had enough money and that her methods wouldn’t allow that task she shut up.


19 posted on 04/05/2024 2:38:35 PM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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Setting the stage for multi-generational ignorance. Teachers won't teach. When parents can't bridge the gap, the student fails. Honestly, my parents didn't need to bridge the gap, nor did my teachers have to teach. Doing my homework is where I learned the subject material. Taking the exam in class is where I demonstrated mastery of the material. There is another level of discussion happening here. There is a range of ability to master material in any classroom. Some students "get it" with just a general pointer in the right direction. Some need to be shown what to do. Some fail to master the material no matter how much effort is expended. The "education business" wants to lower the bar so that even the incorrigible "pass".
21 posted on 04/05/2024 3:13:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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It’s been going on for decades now - the way even simple math, mul/div, is taught is confusing and not ‘easier’ than what I was taught. Then you can’t help them either.

It has to be by design. If Latisha can’t do calculus then NOBODY gets to do calculus. Lower all the boats - communism in action.


25 posted on 04/05/2024 3:44:29 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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I realize that most parents, even here, REFUSE to accept the fact that school curricula are intended to FAIL, particularly math Curricula, which is why I don’t even bother commenting on most ‘education’ related articles, as I always get some nutcase convinced that the school he sends his kids to is in the 1% that hasn’t been corrupted. LOL!

The reason why math was taught ONE WAY from counting to calculus for 99% of recorded history was that ONE WAY worked best. The Leftists who took over education FULLY understand that, which is why they changed it. It’s THAT SIMPLE.


27 posted on 04/05/2024 4:10:38 PM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEI (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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“But when it is too complex for a student to complete even with parent support,


My kids were in ‘new math’.

they would come home with an ‘average’ problem, an ‘area’ problem, a ‘fractions’ problem.

I would try to help, starting with the theory of average, area, ...

The kid would say, just give me the answer.

It turns out that the real lesson was some other level of math that they only got at school.

The parent (me, college level math) did not know what they were trying to teach or what concept.

I can still add, but I use my fingers.


36 posted on 04/05/2024 6:45:50 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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Field-hands in the Workers Paradise have no need of math. /sarc


41 posted on 04/06/2024 10:19:34 PM PDT by Ignatz (The bees don't bother to tell the flies that honey tastes better than dung.)
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I think the teacher/school is at fault then for not teaching math.

At home you can Google the answer.

“But when it is too complex for a student to complete even with parent support, it raises the question as to why it was set as a homework task in the first place.


43 posted on 04/07/2024 11:38:38 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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