Posted on 03/25/2024 1:09:47 PM PDT by Red Badger
I started eating my favorite foods at age 55. Foods with high fat, high cholesterol, high sodium, high sugar foods. Because they are the tastiest. 30 years later I am still in good health, with caveat I am a fanatic about staying active.
“ we have to get it from sources like eggs, dairy, soy protein and meats.”
In other words from food.
Apparently orcs had restaurants. “Menu”
“”Smells like BS to me.
I remember when an article came out a few years ago saying that L-Carnitine causes cancer. Guess what has the most L-Carnitien? Beef””
I believe the real ‘news’ would be one or more laboratory mice WHO DO NOT end up with cancer. The ‘scientists’ pour massive amounts of whatever they are testing into a mouse.
Also:
“”people with higher BMIs””
Just like the Food Pyramid, the BMI index has also been ‘adjusted.’ I remember an article criticizing the new BMI. While he was still playing basketball, Michael Jordan was ‘obese’ according to the new BMI index. Garbage In Garbage Out.
Many turtles are omnivores. My son’s pet box turtle loved raw hamburger. Snapping turtles eats birds, fish, frogs, etc... .
It is a fact that isoleucine is necessary for the growth of muscle tissue.
It is also a fact that the more muscular a person is, the longer they live, on average (you really, REALLY don’t want to be frail headed into old age, you’re going to die a lot sooner).
So this study is telling you that limiting a key amino acid in the maintenance and growth of muscle will help you live longer…which is utter BS, according to another set of studies.
Make it ice cream, please!
It is more of what makes “nutrition science” utter garbage. “...research using data from a 2016-2017 survey of Wisconsin residents had found dietary isoleucine levels were linked with metabolic health and...higher BMIs...”
Yes, people eating the Standard American Diet AND also eating lots of “eggs, dairy, soy protein and meats” tend to be fat. And fat people tend to have bad health. But is it the essential amino acid, or all the carbs found in the Standard American Diet?
Well, let’s find out by studying animals (mice) that, as you point out, almost never eat stuff with high levels of isoleucine. “In the wild, they prefer grains, fruits, and seeds...Mice are particularly fond of these types of foods because they are high in carbohydrates which equates to lots of energy for these small animals that are always on the move. While their diet is primarily vegetarian...”
So while mice, like humans, CAN eat almost anything, it is likely their optimum health comes from eating foods low in isoleucine.
What about humans? Well, we sure can’t tell much from a survey in Wisconsin on people eating huge amounts of highly processed foods!
And it would be easy to find out how it works in humans because pretty much ANYONE eating a “Carnivore” diet would be eating a diet uncommonly high in isoleucine. And what happens to people on the Carnivore diet? Well...they tend to have great health! Not obese and certainly not struggling with diabetes and/or “metabolic health” issues, including obesity.
We KNOW the answer already. So what is driving this bogus “science”? Could it be vegans and the anti-meat people pushing their anti-meat agenda?
And there was the doozy of a study the other day saying that Intermittent Fasting will lead to heart attacks.
“but live lot less years than herbivores such as elephants, turtles” and MICE and DEER and lots of animals with very short lives!
Zoe Harcombe just reviewed “A recent presentation at an American Heart Association conference generated global headlines. It claimed that eating within an 8-hour window each day was linked to a 91% higher risk of cardiovascular death.”
Since she charges for her newsletter - which I love and it well worth the nominal price - I wont quote it at length. But not surprisingly, “The claims for CVD deaths were based on 31 events in 20,078 people. The groups and eating windows were so uneven that bias must be suspected. And all of this relates to two attempts to remember what was eaten yesterday, 20 years ago.”
They did the entire study based on TWO food questionnaires, asking what people ate (in and what time frame) during the previous 24 hours - done in 2003 & 2005!
YGBSM! That was before intermittent fasting was done! Two questionnaires done over 20 years ago, trying to get a snapshot of 24 hours each, and we’re supposed to believe people have continued to eat that way for the last 20 years? Jason Fung wrote The Complete Guide to Fasting in 2016, a dozen years AFTER the two questionnaires!
Oh...and Wikipedia’s article on Jason Fung notes, “Fung’s book The Obesity Code received a 31% score for scientific accuracy and an overall score of 60% by Red Pen Reviews.[16] The reviewer Seth Yoder commented that several of the main claims of the book are poorly supported by science including the idea that elevated levels of insulin are the primary cause of obesity.” No bias there, eh?
Me? Keto and IF finally got me off the Yo-Yo Diet syndrome that lasted 45 years in my case! 45 years of trusting government and having my weight go up and down 40 pounds. It has now been stable for 7 years (at the low end) and I’m on Medicare while running 4 miles a day FOR FUN! And weightlifting.
But ignore my body and submit to government officials who study mice...
Or you can say, Carnivores such as tigers, leopards, hyenas have strong bodies AND live lot MORE years than herbivores such as antelopes, wild goats or groundhogs.
Absurd response. Antelopes and wild goats are killed by predators, not die from natural deaths. The subject of thread is longevity based on diet.
LOL you are confusing deaths from predators versus longevity based on diet.
They can cure cancer, baldness, sexual abnormally, heridiidty diseases …l in mice for the last 20 years. Good thing our new mouse overlords will be well cared for.
“The researchers think restricting isoleucine in humans, either by diet or pharmaceutical means,”
I predict the next big fad and money maker for the drug companies. Another killer drug on the way.
Longest lived lion — 25 -29 years
Longest lived leopard — 25 years
Longest lived hyena —27 years
Longest lived goat -— 22 years
Longest lived springbok ( common African antelope) —19 years
Longest lived groundhog — 15 years
The carnivores win.
“Male mice had their lifespans increased 33 percent compared to those whose isoleucine was not restricted, and females had a 7 percent increase.”
Isoleucine is misogynistic, sexist, and part of The Patriarchy. It’s probably racist, too, but this hasn’t been studied yet.
I have started cheating with bacon. My arthritis pain is almost gone.
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