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1 posted on 02/16/2024 4:57:39 AM PST by MtnClimber
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The leftists don’t believe that anyone should escape their utopia.


2 posted on 02/16/2024 4:57:48 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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It seems very kosher, but that is because virtually none of our 60,000 residents in my suburb attend the meetings.

60,000 residents in a suburban municipality is the problem. It’s either not a real suburb, or it’s such a sprawling mess that it can’t be sustained at a suburban density (hence the urbanization).

3 posted on 02/16/2024 5:06:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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Most people find local politics boring and time consuming.

Some people love any kind of power and are attracted to the idea of telling everyone else how they should live.

The natural tendency is for the wrong people to gravitate to office. This problem is exacerbated because the Media have a strong bias to promote leftists to office.

4 posted on 02/16/2024 5:07:45 AM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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Nobody likes living in cities anymore, they’re too crowded.


6 posted on 02/16/2024 5:10:34 AM PST by babble-on
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Well ... if we are going to import a city the size of Chicago each and every year — and that’s just the illegals across the border with Mexico — where do we think they are going to go?

I know, I know ... wherever the Biden human smuggling operation dumps them. But that will ultimately be mostly concentrated in the cities. It will continue to flood lower income housing, which is already in tight supply. And the ripple effect will continue to densify the suburbs.

The birth rate of the native U.S. population is below replacement level. Population growth is entirely driven by immigration, mostly illegal. If we are going to double the nation’s population every 40-50 years, the urbanization of the suburbs is inevitable.

We all understand this. The leftists don’t, or pretend not to. At this point, I’m ready to suggest that the next Republican president go to every sanctuary state, say that public housing has to be prioritized for penniless illegal immigrants who don’t speak the language, and that this includes student dorms at every public university. College students are privileged in the global intersectionality calculus. Let privileged college students live on the economy and turn their dorms over to the newcomers. And let woke college faculties navigate seas of illegals turning the plazas, sidewalks, landscaped areas, and the entryways of campus buildings into tent cities. The idea that the president doesn’t have the power to do this is being destroyed on a daily basis by Biden’s lawlessness. The schools and universities are now federal puppets. Or so says the democrats.

Let the no borders advocates live in the global shantytown they are inviting into the U.S.


7 posted on 02/16/2024 5:13:25 AM PST by sphinx
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But I am a resident too. It is up to me, and every other resident, to redirect city officials if they are destroying the beautiful suburbs that we live in. We cannot leave it up to anyone else. We have to show up, full force, and band together to prevent the destruction of our neighborhoods.

| Jessica Marie Baumgartner is wrong. Citizens don't need to 'show up' and explain how important our community is - to beg. They need to run for local offices and win. The people doing this are organized and they have a plan... just like when these same types took over positions on school boards a few years back. No one knew what was happening or where they came from...

No kids but the same left wing, sexual weirdo mentality.

Happened to DA's in our cities too. George Soros works from the bottom up.. No amount of logic will sway these folks because they're NOT there for the good of the city or community or neighborhood. These are the 'no cash bail needed' people, the porn in school libraries folks, and the 'large ugly housing projects' folks. You don't fight them by begging or logic or reason - you fight them by running against them.

11 posted on 02/16/2024 5:28:34 AM PST by GOPJ (Mayorkas reeks of that 'CIA (Creepy Thug Assh*le') mentality. Ashli Babbit's killer was promoted..)
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“During 2020, panhandlers started appearing in the area”


I stopped, rolled down my window and told a panhandler yesterday: “Really! You’ve been doing this for FIVE years!” I know because I gave him $1.00 five years ago — he looked at the bill, sneered at the small amount, sneered at me and grudgingly put the bill in his pocket. A memorable occasion.

It must have effected him because I saw him 10 minutes later at a different stop sign — I rolled down my window and laughed at him...


13 posted on 02/16/2024 5:32:19 AM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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I just read an article on real estate that said the buyers aren’t looking for all these apartment buildings, buyers want traditional single-family housing on a piece of land. What is being built is what government wants. So again, I will ask, why are we being imposed upon? Our form of government is supposed to be a representative form where government puts out what the governed demand.


14 posted on 02/16/2024 5:44:52 AM PST by yldstrk
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It will be like France, where the suburbs are the areas the poor live in.


17 posted on 02/16/2024 6:00:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Well yeah. That’s just the natural math of a growing city. Out of town becomes the ex-urbs, ex-urbs become suburbs, and suburbs become urbs. Not really a mystery. At the end of the 19th century the part of Tucson I live in was a different township entirely with a bunch of nothing between it and Tucson. By the time I got here it was all Tucson.


23 posted on 02/16/2024 7:02:45 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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How about a bounty on panhandlers who disrupt traffic?


25 posted on 02/16/2024 7:46:12 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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My County is one of the Redest in Minnesota.

Over the last 5 years... They’ve built multiple high density housing projects and put in dozens of business complexes where there used to be farm land...

My taxes have skyrockets accordingly...

Anecdotal proof... but there it is...


29 posted on 02/16/2024 8:03:44 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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If she doesn’t want any development (big box stores and restaurants) she needs to move to a mountain hamlet where there is no physical space for development.


36 posted on 02/16/2024 9:14:24 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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Local politicians perform much better when angry and determined locals are in their face 24/7.

They are public servants and need to be treated like servants.

If they don’t like it they are free to quit.


37 posted on 02/16/2024 9:15:17 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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News flash:

This has been going on for at least 60 years, and there are any number of suburban ghettos which prove it. They all started off nice, then they went to hell. Many close-in suburbs were well underway on that dismal journey before many of us were even born, and things surely aren’t getting any better today.

You want a good area? Get as far away from the central city as possible. Skip over the “first ring” suburbs (they should be obviously horrible by now) and probably over the second ring too. In some areas like Atlanta, you need to go at least 3-4 counties away from Fulton. That’s a hell of a commute if you work in the city, but well worth it to be able to sleep relatively safely at night.


39 posted on 02/16/2024 9:16:36 AM PST by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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I moved to Chubbuck, ID in 2000. The population was under 10,000. Lots of open farm land in and around the city. Roll forward to 2024. Much of the farmland is covered in apartments. Lots of car wash businesses are springing up. A car wash is an easy pick in an area with Winter weather and lots of dust in the air during active farming season. The only time you don't wash is in sub-freezing weather where you could have the doors frozen shut.

What I don't understand is the economic argument for all of these apartments. Most of the employment in town is barely above minimum wage. The rents are out of reach for most people with local employment. There is adequate housing around Idaho State University for the transient populations of students present from September to June each year. I see a similar pattern up in Idaho Falls. New apartments everywhere. There simply isn't adequate employment to support all of this capacity.

41 posted on 02/16/2024 10:17:03 AM PST by Myrddin
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