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What if Men Could Produce Their Own Eggs?
Reason ^ | FEBRUARY 2024 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 01/30/2024 12:29:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

In vitro gametogenesi could allow same-sex couples, post-menopausal women, and couples experiencing infertility to have children.

Japanese researchers announced last year that healthy fertile mice had been born using eggs created from male mice's tail-tip cells. The male-derived eggs were fertilized with regular sperm, thus producing pups with two fathers. Reproductive biologist Katsuhiko Hayashi, who led the work at Kyushu University, thinks that it will be technically possible to create a viable human egg from a male skin cell within a decade, according to The Guardian.

This achievement builds on earlier work in which another team of Japanese researchers created mouse eggs from tail-tip cells that resulted in the birth of healthy offspring in 2017. Another Japanese research group in 2021 using mouse stem cells created sperm that produced healthy fertile offspring.

Now researchers at private biotech companies like Conception Bio and Gameto are racing to see if they can develop this in vitro gametogenesis (IVG) technology as a way to safely enable post-menopausal women, couples experiencing infertility, and same-sex couples to bear biologically related children. Perhaps even solo reproduction in which single men could produce both sperm and eggs that combined would result in them having biological children in the future.

Bear in mind that only seven healthy mouse pups emerged from the 630 two-dad embryos transferred by the Japanese researchers. So significant technical hurdles must be addressed before IVG can be safely used to give birth to human babies. But some folks object to pursuing human procreation using IVG even after it becomes as safe as conventional and in vitro fertilization (IVF) births.

IVG is "a perversion of the sanctity of procreation as a fundamental aspect of human life," said Ben Hurlbut, a bioethicist at Arizona State University, in USA Today. He added, "It makes it into an industrial project that responds to and also inspires and cultivates the desires of their future customers." Marcy Darnovsky, head of the left-wing Center for Genetics and Society, warned on NPRthat IVG "could take us into a kind of Gattaca world." (She was referencing the 1997 sci-fi movie in which a eugenicist state is ruled by people born with genetically enhanced abilities.) Over at the conservative Federalist, Jordan Boyd asserts that by developing IVG, "the global fertility industry seeks to erase women from procreation one manufactured egg at a time."

The National Academy of Sciences addresses many of these ethical concerns in its In Vitro-Derived Human Gametes conference proceedings report released in October 2023. That report is summarizing the results of a conference on the topic convened by the NAS in April 2023.

Far from "erasing women," IVG will instead enable otherwise infertile women to produce as many eggs as they desire without having to endure treatments like ovarian stimulation in the hope of yielding sufficient eggs to succeed at conventional IVF.

Hurlbut is right that many people regard procreation as a "fundamental aspect of human life." This would be especially true for the 9 percent of men and 11 percent of women of reproductive age in the United States who have experienced fertility problems. Then there are people past conventional reproductive age and same-sex couples who would like to have biologically related children. Far from being an "industrial project," the rollout of safe IVG would fulfill the desires of these future customers to build their families.

What about Gattaca fears? The report does acknowledge that "combining IVG with polygenic risk screening could revolutionize the ability to select embryos." Polygenic risk screening (PRS) totes up the genetic variants that increase each embryo's chances of developing a particular disease or trait. This is similar to the already widely accepted practice of pre-implantation genetic diagnosis during IVF, in which parents test and select embryos in order to avoid deleterious heritable conditions. PRS would increase would-be parents' ability to select a preferred combination of traits from among many more embryos.

Rather than limit the use of PRS, Stanford University bioethicist Hank Greely suggested that, "in general, it is better to rely on parental choices to make decisions about how people wish to create families." This follows from the reasonable presumption that parents generally seek to provide the best lives for their potential progeny. The sorry history of eugenics laws in the U.S., where tens of thousands were forcibly sterilized during the 20th century, should make anyone cautious about government meddling in people's reproductive choices, including the use of safe IVG. As University of California, Irvine, law professor Michele Goodwin correctly noted, "Where law has intervened over time in matters of reproduction, it has served to undermine civil liberties and civil rights."


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Do we really need to go there?
1 posted on 01/30/2024 12:29:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“You’ll pick your son, pick your daughter too.
From the bottom of a long glass tube.”


2 posted on 01/30/2024 12:30:19 PM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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Looking at dog: If I could do that, I’d never leave the house...


3 posted on 01/30/2024 12:32:32 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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“What if Men Could Produce Their Own Eggs?”

World peace.


4 posted on 01/30/2024 12:33:53 PM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Make orwell fiction again)
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To: John Milner

I hope they wait until 2525.


5 posted on 01/30/2024 12:34:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That would be gay.


6 posted on 01/30/2024 12:35:03 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: nickcarraway

Those woke leftists are today’s Dr. Frankenstein. Which was symbolic for scientists crossing into evil.

The train left the station on that one a long time ago. Someone said the early clone of the sheep Dolly July 5, 1996 instead of a rattlesnake was to make a difference in mass public acceptance, for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLPJuy9oyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c


7 posted on 01/30/2024 12:36:37 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Men with men...maybe that’s what they really want and I say go for it.


8 posted on 01/30/2024 12:37:45 PM PST by cherry
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To: nickcarraway

They’ve already missed the bus. Unless there is an Anime character involved, they’ve got nothing.


9 posted on 01/30/2024 12:38:52 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: nickcarraway

What if Pigs could fly?


10 posted on 01/30/2024 12:39:14 PM PST by Herodes
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To: nickcarraway

Why is there such a need to do this sort of research?

Our human species is in no danger of extinction.

We know how reproduction works.

I guess from their point of view, the fact that homosexual couples cannot reproduce is a crime against humanity.


11 posted on 01/30/2024 12:40:36 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nickcarraway

Well, I don’t have a tail tip.


12 posted on 01/30/2024 12:41:12 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: READINABLUESTATE

They can. They buy some chickens and let them produce nice fresh eaggs.


13 posted on 01/30/2024 12:41:53 PM PST by dforest
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To: nickcarraway

“Do we really need to go there?”

I’ve laid a few eggs along the way.


14 posted on 01/30/2024 12:43:24 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: nickcarraway

You know, I am really fond of making love with my wife.

She certainly seems to enjoy it, too. Says she keeps me around for that, spiders, and stuck jars. Also car issues and basic household electrical issues.

So this seems a bit of a solution in search of a problem.


15 posted on 01/30/2024 12:46:19 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: nickcarraway

“if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle”


16 posted on 01/30/2024 12:46:44 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: nickcarraway

What if horses could fly? What if people had IQ’s of 9,000? What if sexual weirdos could make the news with silly crystal ball dreams?


17 posted on 01/30/2024 12:48:55 PM PST by GOPJ (“POSIWID” systems engineer's acronym that stands for “the Purpose Of a System Is What It Does.”)
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To: nickcarraway

Call me traditional, but I prefer to require a female for eggs. I don’t want to produce my own. I definitely want a girl involved. Definitely.


18 posted on 01/30/2024 12:51:53 PM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: nickcarraway

“Just because we can doesn’t mean we should” comes to mind.


19 posted on 01/30/2024 12:55:55 PM PST by uptowngirl
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To: nickcarraway; All
From "Reason" magazine.

What if a person was lousy at inventing or building something?

Well, he could backwards engineer someone else's invention to gain access to the initial knowledge that created the invention.

What if a really arrogant person could backwards engineer one of God's greatest inventions?

Pretty sure he'd think he was equal to God.

Envy is so evil it's addressed in the Ten Commandments.

20 posted on 01/30/2024 12:57:23 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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