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When Siberia Will Be Chinese
https://www.amazon.com/When-Siberia-Will-Be-Chinese/dp/B079C5JRKY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 ^

Posted on 01/14/2024 7:22:16 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

It’s the elephant in the room when you look at a map of Eurasia.

Russia has 11% of the world’s land that is suitable for agriculture. China, with a vastly larger population, has only 7%. There are already numerous Chinese farmers in Russia. And then there is the matter of all those natural resources, in particular, timber, for those seemingly limitless forests. The documentary shows the modern machinery that Chinese firms are using to harvest all that timber.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: china; gurag; russia; siberia
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The demographics of both countries are collapsing. China will not take Siberia and may well become several countries within the lifetime of many of us on this forum.


21 posted on 01/14/2024 9:10:48 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Thanks for posting this. I’ll watch it when the snow hits tonight.
Dr. Jack Wheeler told me this months ago and despite the source, I found it hard to believe; that Russia would soon collapse and China would take Siberia and not Taiwan.


22 posted on 01/14/2024 9:13:04 AM PST by LucienCA13 (sorry if you are microaggrieved)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“I’d take bets on when we see 1969(Amur river) repeat.”

NO; that was a relatively localized schoolyard spat compared to what we can expect if such a squabble over land between the two erupts in the future.


23 posted on 01/14/2024 9:13:44 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

And if you look closely at the region (Amur River) of the border you will see Chinese farms right up to the border, but on the other side the farmland continues without any Moscovia farms.


24 posted on 01/14/2024 9:16:12 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FarCenter

Falun Gong.


25 posted on 01/14/2024 9:16:27 AM PST by webheart
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To: DIRTYSECRET

To do it military the losses would be horrendous like invading Taiwan, not acceptable. The Chinese military is all show, like their ghost cities and of the same construction quality.


26 posted on 01/14/2024 9:19:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

In one of the Tom Clancy novels, Siberia was referred to by China as the northern resource area.


27 posted on 01/14/2024 9:29:32 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: MeganC

I don’t take orders from broads.

Shouldn’t you be on a Russian egg thread?


28 posted on 01/14/2024 9:51:04 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

“Shouldn’t you be on a Russian egg thread?”

Shouldn’t you be in Russia?


29 posted on 01/14/2024 9:57:47 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Russian population is declining (so is Chinese but that’s a separate issue) and Siberia is already very sparsely populated and is rich in natural resources. What do you think is going to happen?!


30 posted on 01/14/2024 10:03:58 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: MeganC

Of the two of us, I am the US Veteran.

Of the two of us, you’re the only one who advocated genocide.
You called for every person in Russia to be wiped off the Earth forever.

Of the two of us, you’re the only “Report Abuse” coward.

Isn’t it odd that you advocate war, but get butthurt over words on FR?
You advocate war, but zero of your children serve.

Typical woman…loud, opinionated, and zero accountability.


31 posted on 01/14/2024 10:08:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Andrei Amalrik predicted that 50 years ago. So did others. It hasn’t happened yet.

How much of the land in Siberia and Russia’s Far East is really suited for farming?

And isn’t China’s population now going down — or at least rising only slowly?

The Chinese can get what they want through trade, rather than through arms (if they want to)?


32 posted on 01/14/2024 10:14:44 AM PST by x
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Since there are no people to amount to anything in Siberia, the question doesn’t matter.

China is in terminal turmoil and Siberia is not really at risk


33 posted on 01/14/2024 10:24:50 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Hamasci de is required in totalhe)
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To: bert
China is in terminal turmoil and Siberia is not really at risk.

In their death throes, dying nations turn predatory.

34 posted on 01/14/2024 10:26:51 AM PST by Publius
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To: FarCenter
And unlike Muslims and Christians, China doesn’t have a mission to change how other people believe, think and live.

Sure they do. That's part and parcel with Communism. Mark Steyn has written a number of great pieces stating that while free market types wanted to open up to Red China to make them more like us, Red China has succeeded in making us more like them. The social credit scores, DEI, wokeism, etc. are just variations from the playbook. Red Chinese run Tik-Tok is definitely used to shape political opinion.They are doing a bang-up job of manipulating the Catholic Church due to sympathetic forces in the Vatican.
35 posted on 01/14/2024 10:28:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: DIRTYSECRET

you do realize that there is a significant Asian/Russian population already in Russia?....ever hear of Kalmykia?....


36 posted on 01/14/2024 10:31:07 AM PST by cherry
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well killing off girl babies is one way of decreasing the population...you know that war on boys thing and all..


37 posted on 01/14/2024 10:32:51 AM PST by cherry
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Traveling acoss Russia and into China showed a difference in the people. In Russia -— all were dressed in drab colored clothing - even in the cities it seemed. In China -— even the farmers in the fields were brightly dressed. Saw that when I went from London to Hong Kong by train in the 80s. Stopped at cities along the way. Fascinating trip.


38 posted on 01/14/2024 10:42:19 AM PST by Exit148
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To: Dr. Sivana
What’s the current birth rate in China? It’s below replacement.

So is Russia's.

But Russia will run out of people long before China will.

39 posted on 01/14/2024 10:50:40 AM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: AlaskaErik
But Russia will run out of people long before China will.

I won't argue with that. If Russia doesn't have enough people to hold Siberia, someone will want to take it from them. They may as well be the southwest U.S. when Spain had it if they can't put enough people there to hold it.
40 posted on 01/14/2024 10:53:09 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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