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Enough With The ‘All-Female Crew Caused The P-8 Crash’ Nonsense
The Aviationist ^ | 2023/11/27 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 12/14/2023 8:05:03 PM PST by traumer

On Nov. 20, 2023, a U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft 169561 YD-561, belonging to the VP-4 “Skinny Dragons” based at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, Washington, ended in water after overshooting the runway during landing at Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.

The crew, safely evacuated the aircraft after the mishap without immediate injuries....

(Excerpt) Read more at theaviationist.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aviation; debunked; diversity; navy; p8
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To: rottndog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFUXshaaMQM

by an F-14 pilot.


41 posted on 12/14/2023 9:36:50 PM PST by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: BipolarBob

Yep, there’s that. Women and tools - they just don’t understand like a man does. Unless and until we can stop saying “the first female, black, non-binary blah, blah, blah” they will never be considered equal, period.


42 posted on 12/14/2023 9:40:23 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: cpdiii

You forgot #9. They may have been looking to “catch a wave, and your sittin on top of the world”.

But the only waves at that time were the ones they made. But they did get the world’s attention, so there’s that.


43 posted on 12/14/2023 9:40:43 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Women are most able to get out of traffic tickets, too.


44 posted on 12/14/2023 9:43:09 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: traumer

I wouldn’t blame the entire crew, some of the crew on board have zip to do with the flying.

I’d blame the pilots. And they were women. People make a big deal because the military made a point to highlight it first. So we can also note it in our criticism.


45 posted on 12/14/2023 9:55:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The military does not go out of their way to highlight all-male crews because all male crews are the historical norm.

And unlike this time, because they are girls, the girl pilots will not lose their jobs for this major clusterf##k. Men would lose their flight status and often end their career on something like this.


46 posted on 12/14/2023 9:58:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jonty30

They “overshot the runway.”

Which means it was pilot error.

It would be different if the plane had mechanical errors.


47 posted on 12/14/2023 10:00:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: traumer

48 posted on 12/14/2023 10:05:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: DesertRhino

“This is an unqualified female problem.”

I find it interesting that the people pushing unqualified females into roles like military pilots are the same ones that are, at the same time, trying to get us into wars with Russia and China, two countries have NO ROOM for unqualified people of any type, in any position.


49 posted on 12/14/2023 10:15:13 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: rottndog
the problem is not female pilots...the problem is double standards in training and political pressure to pass women through the training pipeline.

Yes, and in this case, investigators will be told to find another cause for the accident.

50 posted on 12/14/2023 10:18:50 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Jonty30

Where’s the “it’s aliens” meme? That’s should explain 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


51 posted on 12/14/2023 10:22:21 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: traumer; BipolarBob; Sequoyah101; Berlin_Freeper; Jonty30; DesertRhino

This reminds me of the several articles about the collision involving the USS Fitsgerald where the OOD, JOOD, and CIC Watch Officer were all female. Their defense attorney made the point that the problem did not only involve the women. The ship CO, squadron commander, Commander 7th Fleet, etal all got punches on their diversity tickets for promotion by passing these females for enhanced responsibilities. Only when the women appeared on the wrong side of a green table did they discover they were not qualified for the jobs.


52 posted on 12/14/2023 10:26:16 PM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Those don’t count.

It’s never a man’s fault, dontcha know?


53 posted on 12/14/2023 10:50:01 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: traumer

and the Navy doesn’t want to clarify anything


54 posted on 12/14/2023 10:50:35 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Retain Mike
As I recall some of these women were having a sort of cat fight and were no longer talking to each other. Not even on duty. Certainly a very mature set of actions don't you think?

Oh well, we had better stop bashing since we are only misogynists.

55 posted on 12/14/2023 10:57:35 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Retain Mike
USS John S. McCain and Alnic MC collision
56 posted on 12/14/2023 11:18:12 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: traumer
VP-4 “Skinny Dragons” based at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island…

Dang. That was my Dad’s squadron way back when. There weren’t any women in it then.

My mom passed away from an illness when I was in my 20s and I was my dad’s “date” to a couple of his squadron reunions when he was retired from the Navy. I loved the stories about the various bars in Okinawa VP-4 was banned from.

57 posted on 12/14/2023 11:27:03 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: traumer

USS Fitzgerald, Laura Hultgreen

and this Navy cover up:

NAS WHITING FIELD — A U.S. Navy investigation into the 2020 crash of a T-6B Texan II single-engine turboprop training aircraft from Naval Air Station Whiting Field that killed a Navy instructor pilot and a Coast Guard student pilot has determined their deaths were “not due to misconduct or negligence.”

Navy Lt. Rhiannon Ross and Coast Guard Ensign Morgan Garrett died on impact when their plane came down in a residential area near Foley, Alabama, on the afternoon of Oct. 23, 2020, as they were en route to a landing field east of the city.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/news/military/2022/01/05/naval-air-station-whiting-field-navy-report-fatal-crash-rhiannon-ross-morgan-garrett/9088581002/

They were flathatting. The only T-6B fatalities to date.


58 posted on 12/14/2023 11:33:15 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: traumer

It’s pretty easy to start pinning the blame. Look at the weather reports. The tailwinds were out of limits. Anyone who’s flown out of Kanehoe Bay knows that the runway is problematic because of terrain and winds. The Navy should have kept Barber’s Point open. Bad headwork all around.


59 posted on 12/14/2023 11:38:10 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Zuriel
Tell that to the tail gunner! :P


60 posted on 12/14/2023 11:39:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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