Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia was forced to retreat from their positions in Avdiivka Glory to Ukraine

Youtube.com ^ | 11-27-2023 | Denys Davydov

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia was forced to retreat from their positions in Avdiivka Glory to Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4DooVD8i0

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 22nd November 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-637-summary/

[NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/

[Allegra]

As of this comment, seven 'removals.'

None of which appear to have broken any of the rules. At least not the ones I saw. I didn’t see any profanity or name-calling or anything of that nature. I may have missed a couple of them, though.

[bimboeruption]

I wonder...do mods get paid by the removal? </s>

[bimboeruption]

They used to be known as the Plaid Pants Wing of the Republican Party.

[BroJoeK]

ransomnote: "On a related note, the US and NATO should not give Zelensky another dime; he'll just buy more luxury real estate and goods with it.

Ukraine's Zelensky CAUGHT buying $75 million luxury yacht with U.S. money
11/27/2023, 10:03:49 PM · by delta7 · 21 replies Redacted News ^ | 27 Nov 24 | Clayton Morris"

I think I remember Clayton Morris on Fox News, years ago.

MeganC: "The two yachts belong to Putin."

UMCRevMom@aol.com: "Thanks Meghan.. your comment beat me to it! LOL"

Minor detail -- it's two yachts for $75 million total being alleged as recently purchased by close friends of Ukraine Pres. Zelenskyy.

That report on Ukrainian yachts looks to me like just more fake news, typical Russian propaganda, likely in response to the actual recent discovery of two more actual Putin Yachts.

Prof. Gerdes explains

Here Prof. Gerdes goes through this story, noting that all of it is from a single very shady source, verified by nobody at the time and unverifiable today.

Gerdes himself accepts the claim of two yachts being purchased as legitimate, though nothing about the alleged documentation looked convincing to me.

Gerdes accepts that the alleged buyers were friends of Ukraine Pres. Zelenskyy, for which I've seen no serious evidence.

But Gerdes draws his "red line" at the point of claiming Zelenskyy himself had anything to do with these purchases, since there is no evidence for that either.

Gerdes does note that Zelenskyy made a lot money as an actor producer before becoming President, so may well afford such purchases out of his own earnings.

But I saw nothing in Prof. Gerdes video which convinced me that any of this is real.
The far more likely explanation is pure Russian propaganda intended as a "what about this" response to the discovery of two much more expensive Putin yachts.

Putin's yacht collection is now up to one dozen, valued at over $1 billion, including this Putin extravaganza:

[BroJoeK]

MNDude: "Russia actually made it into Avdiivka?
This is my first hearing about it.
A month ago, the suggestion that Russians could ever enter that city was laughed at here."

For months now Russians have been trying to do at Avdiivka what they did over around eight months at Bakhmut, only without the services of the Wagner Group, which, say what you want about them, knew how to do it.

At Avdiivka Russians have made some progress, at enormous costs in lives and equipment, sometimes said to be over 1,000 killed per day.
On other days Ukrainians have pushed them back a bit, though net-net, Russians have advanced slowly around Avdiivka.

Still, the battle is far from over and bleeding of Russian troops is thought to outnumber Ukrainians by several to one.

[ransomnote]

The whole point of using proxy buyers is to be able to say there’s no proof that what they bought has anything to do with the buyer.

If you read up on Zelensky, he got where he is now in part by the support of an oligarch. He’s got mansions to retreat to once the Ukraine collapses. MANSIONS. Multiple mansions.

Do you recall his choosing to be photographed with his wife and a stack of money? Do you recall her being exposed for Paris shopping sprees while her country was struggling?

These yachts are nothing compared to what Zelensky already owns - so I am not scandalized that his proxies are doing what they were supposed to do - make it look unrelated to him personally.

I’m sorry but Ukrainian actors/producers don’t amass the kingly wealth that is common in Hollywood. He wasn’t particularly good or popular - to propose he bought yachts off his ‘actor/producer’ earnings seems preposterous to me.So there’s nothing but his puppet wages and skimming off of the ‘foreign aid’ from the US/NATO, originally intended for the war, to explain his net worth now.

The comparison to Putin’s yacht is pointless in that the public can believe he’s not skimming it off US foreign aid.

Many heads of state (and legislators) of countries like the US, Britain, France etc. use their position in unethical ways to build wealth through means I don’t like - and Putin is no different. But those of us in the United States aren’t sending him 113 Billion dollars to fight a proxy war, and being asked to send him another 100 Billion to go yacht shopping.

As usual, the Ukrainian zealots are accusing Putin propagandists of doing what Zelensky propagandists are actually doing - saying ‘What about this?’ re Putin’s yachts to deflect from the fact Zelensky constantly begs America for more money and claims the Ukraine could win if we would just keep the cash flowing swiftly - while he skims foreign aid money and his country literally dies.

[BroJoeK]

Dogbert41: "Yes, we cannot have “Discord” when usurpers drag America into WWIII.
All aboard to destruction!!!"

Burying our collective heads in the sand and loudly pretending "it's not our war" will most likely have the same results as those same behaviors did in the mid to late 1930s.

It's a time-proven ineffective strategy for preventing wider wars.

[Rocco DiPippo]

Hey BroJoke. Don't ping me - ever. I don't GAF what any Youcrayno the Clown!!!™ Award winner has to say.

If you feel the need to bloviate or spew at me, do it only as a response to one of my comments. Again, do not ping me - ever again. Got it? Good.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

First True comment DiPippo has ever uttered!

Even the anti-Ukraine gang recognize: BroJoeK is an out-standing Award winning Freeper!

[BroJoeK]

ransomnote: "The whole point of using proxy buyers is to be able to say there’s no proof that what they bought has anything to do with the buyer."

Again I reference you to the Prof. Gerdes video on this particular subject -- alleged purchases of two yachts worth supposedly $75 million.

Again I note that while Gerdes is properly skeptical of the original video report on which all others are based, Gerdes imho is not nearly skeptical enough.

My view is that not one word of all this is established as "fact".
Rather, all of it is based on 100% dubious accusations which should not be accepted in any way, shape or form until confirmed by reliable investigation.

ransomnote: "If you read up on Zelensky, he got where he is now in part by the support of an oligarch.
He’s got mansions to retreat to once the Ukraine collapses. MANSIONS.
Multiple mansions."

Sure, this is one of Zelenskyy's mansions, his main residence:

As for other alleged "mansions" here is all I can find on those:

"There is no credible evidence that Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the President of Ukraine, owns property in the US1234.
Specifically, there is no evidence that he owns a $35 million villa in Miami234.
The Florida Public Registry of Real Estate does not feature any real estate linked to Zelenskyy or the companies named in the Pandora Papers2."

And then there is this:

"Fact Check: False claim that Zelenkyy bought parents multimillion-dollar house Isabella Fertel USA TODAY

"The claim: Ukrainian President Zelenskyy bought his parents an $8 million mansion
Since Russia invaded Ukraine in February, social media has been flooded with false and misleading information about the conflict.
One popular topic is Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's property assets.

"An Oct. 5 Instagram post claims that Zelenskyy recently bought his parents an $8 million villa.
The post includes an image of a lavish estate.

"I see that Zelensky just bought his parents an $8,000,000 villa, complete with a salt water pool & 3 brand new vehicles," reads text included in the post.
"But let's just keep on sending billions of our tax dollars for 'foreign aid to Ukraine.'..."

"But the posts are false.
There is no evidence that Zelenskyy made such a purchase for his parents.
The property pictured in the posts is still listed for sale on Sotheby's international website."

And there are several other similar stories, all of them fact-checked as false.
Of course I understand, for people eager to believe Russian propaganda lies, "fact-checks" themselves are all fake and you can only reliably depend on information flowing directly out of the Kremlin's propaganda sewer pipes.

ransomnote: "Do you recall his choosing to be photographed with his wife and a stack of money?
Do you recall her being exposed for Paris shopping sprees while her country was struggling?"

No, but I'm certain that in the fervid imaginations of our pro-Russian propagandists it's all very real and important.

ransomnote: "I’m sorry but Ukrainian actors/producers don’t amass the kingly wealth that is common in Hollywood.
He wasn’t particularly good or popular - to propose he bought yachts off his ‘actor/producer’ earnings seems preposterous to me.
So there’s nothing but his puppet wages and skimming off of the ‘foreign aid’ from the US/NATO, originally intended for the war, to explain his net worth now."

Zelenskyy was obviously outstanding in his long-running acting role as Ukraine's president in the series "Servant of the People", because Ukrainians came to love him enough to elect him their real president.

In the USA we once had a president with an acting background.
He was very effective in helping bring down the Old Soviet Union, which Vlad the Invader is determined to restore.
Any American who remembers the Gipper still loves him.

So how much is Zelenskyy's net worth?
Forbes Magazine puts it at circa $30 million, most of which is in his 25% share of the production company which made the "Servant of the People" series.

"Forbes estimates Zelensky’s entire real estate portfolio is worth $4 million, including two more wholly owned apartments, two that he co-owns, a single commercial property and five parking spaces.
Zelensky did own a $4.6 million villa in Forte dei Marmi, Italy as of December 2019, according to the most recent filing by his holding company.
He apparently sold it during 2020 (it had shown up in his declarations for 2018 and 2019 but not 2020) along with a small plot of land and 5 hotel rooms in Georgia (popular upper-middle-class investments in Ukraine).
The cash from these sales was declared and is included in Forbes’ estimate"

And there's this:

"Internet sleuths, or more likely Russian propagandists, have credited Zelensky with owning as many as five luxury yachts and three private jets, in addition to $60 million of shares in companies like Saudi Aramco, Meta and Tesla.

"Forbes found no evidence of such a fleet, and if Zelensky does own stock in those companies it’s hard to believe those shares would be worth anywhere close to $60 million.
We estimate he and his wife Olena Zelenska share a bank account that holds roughly $2 million in cash and government bonds.
Their other assets, consisting of two cars and some jewelry, are worth no more than $1 million."

ransomnote: "The comparison to Putin’s yacht is pointless in that the public can believe he’s not skimming it off US foreign aid."

No, the comparison of Zelenskyy's $30 million honestly earned to Vladimir Putin's $70 billion, all stolen, is exactly the point, since the lies about Zelenskyy originate with the Russian Ministry of agit-propaganda.

There's no evidence that Zelenskyy skimmed anything from anyone, while Putin's guilt is manifest after 24 years of ruling over Russia, becoming perhaps the world's wealthiest man.

ransomnote: "Many heads of state (and legislators) of countries like the US, Britain, France etc. use their position in unethical ways to build wealth through means I don’t like - and Putin is no different.
But those of us in the United States aren’t sending him 113 Billion dollars to fight a proxy war, and being asked to send him another 100 Billion to go yacht shopping."

All of that is Russian propaganda, none of it is verified as true.

ransomnote: "As usual, the Ukrainian zealots are accusing Putin propagandists of doing what Zelensky propagandists are actually doing - saying ‘What about this?’ re Putin’s yachts to deflect from the fact Zelensky constantly begs America for more money and claims the Ukraine could win if we would just keep the cash flowing swiftly - while he skims foreign aid money and his country literally dies."

"Constantly begs for more money" is what US diplomats in Paris, Amsterdam, Madrid and many other countries did from the years 1776 until 1781 during the US Revolutionary War.
When you are fighting for independence against a world super-power (or even semi-super power), it's kind of the thing you have to do.

As for "skimming" that is still just Russian propaganda projecting their own behaviors onto their enemies.
Still not verified as true.

[BroJoeK]

Mocker DiPippo: "If you feel the need to bloviate or spew at me, do it only as a response to one of my comments.
Again, do not ping me - ever again. Got it? Good."

I see... like our other Woke Warriors here you are big on cancel culture, micro aggressions, safe-spaces, and maybe you also want more diversity, equity and inclusions? Or not?

It's not enough for you Woke Warriors to just ignore what you don't want to respond to, you have proactively try to shut it down, turn it off, cancel it, delete it or even zot anyone who dares offend your sensitive feeeeeeeeeelings.

And of course, when all else fails, and nothing else works to shut down your opponents, you will soon enough escalate to your ultimate weapons of mass deception -- you'll mock, mock & mock the h*ll out of anyone who doesn't kowtow to your own opinions.

Got it.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

A wee retrospective of geopolitical analysis:

"The ‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did used Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering by using Russian agents embedded BY PUTIN in the Ukraine government: Ukrainian deep-state!

President Zelensky is still trying to remove Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin!”

Source: Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin with Biden in the cartel

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Dear accused "Mocker," one might let the "original" mock himself.

President Zelensky and Ukrainian people singing and dancing naked in supermarkets [Music Video]🇺🇦

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky

[dforest]

Here is the kind of waste that US taxpayer money is going for in Ukraine. People need to send this to every stupid corrupt Congress critter who votes to break the American people. Let them know how disgusting they are for supporting people like this.

https://twitter.com/leslibless/status/1729637573792764060

This little bish should be in the trenches with the not so fortunate people.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

A closeup suggests the license plate is EU, therefore not in Ukraine.

[dforest]

Does it matter where she is filmed doing this? In fact, that makes this even worse.

[dforest]

The Zeeps are unable to understand that we aren’t sending taxpayer money to purchase yachts for Putin.

[Rocco DiPippo]

"I see... like our other Woke Warriors here you are big on cancel culture, micro aggressions, safe-spaces, and maybe you also want more diversity, equity and inclusions? Or not?"

Let's be clear, BroJoke: With your mindless shilling for the corrupt craphole of Youcrayne and its corrupt, gay-dancing, satanist appointing leader, you are on the same side as the woke, radical left, the globalist left, the WEF, the UN, George Soros et al, all of the most vile Dems and RINOs in America, the leftwing EU and every leftist .org and NGO in the world. That is indisputable FACT.

Given that yesterday you tried equating Freeper SpeedyinTexas, (who wrote, "I would rather the world end in nuclear war rather than yield to little Pukin'") with Patrick Henry, your idiotic,long-winded Youkazoidal screeds merit nothing more than mockery, so I shall continue mocking you as long as you keep dropping crazy garbage like your defense of Speedy's vile comment on this site. That clunky attempt by you to twist something indisputably evil into something good clearly indicates that you not only think like leftists do, but you act like them too.

I have a feeling another Youycrayno the Clown!!! Award is in your very near future!

[Rocco DiPippo]

"First True comment DiPippo has ever uttered! Even the anti-Ukraine gang recognize: BroJoeK is an out-standing Award winning Freeper!"

Mindlessly calling me a liar again I see. That's rich coming from FR's premier propagandist, serial liar and slanderer; a deceptive clown who deliberately twists and misappropriates the comments of those who oppose her crazy, Youkazoidal worldview. That is indisputable. And the crowning jewel of your execrable "career" here is your compulsion to censor opposing comments far, far more than any Freeper ever has. Ugh.

BTW, here's the wonderful award BroJoke, along with you, has won on numerous occasions! And guess what? - because of your slanderous comment against me, you win again! Bravo!