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What does Javier Milei’s win in Argentina mean to America? - He becomes the first libertarian president in the world
The Spectator ^ | 20 Nov, 2023 | Juan P. Villasmil

Posted on 11/20/2023 6:43:03 AM PST by MtnClimber

Javier Milei, a messy-haired bombastic libertarian economist, won Argentina’s presidential elections against socialist minister of economics Sergio Massa this Sunday. With the backdrop of inflation that the International Monetary Fund projects will trail only that of Zimbabwe and Venezuela by the end of the year, Milei triumphed with over 55 percent of votes in the runoff with more than 94 percent of votes counted, according to data from the country’s National Electoral Chamber.

In a brief speech before the results were announced, Massa, who came first in the October 22 election that led to the run-off, said, “Milei is the president elected for the next four years,” adding that he had called Milei to personally congratulate him on his victory.

Milei ran on an anti-establishment platform that had the entirety of US media drawing comparisons between him and Donald Trump. In some ways, the comparisons made sense: Milei packed stadiums, slammed the mainstream media and made the occasional crude yet hilarious joke. And like Trump, he also earned himself some big enemies, including Pope Francis, who he labeled a “filthy leftist” and “the representative of the Devil on Earth.” Even more like Trump, he found himself a loyal following enamored in great part by his larger-than-life personality.

And as in America in 2016, unexpectedly for most, it took one unconventional man to supplant the conventional right. Back in August, Milei shocked the nation by getting 30 percent of the vote in the presidential primary, leaving behind both Massa and center-right Patricia Bullrich — the candidate originally backed by former president Mauricio Macri.

But unlike Trump, Milei’s so-called “far-right populism” is not what many Americans have in mind. While Milei did sit down with Tucker Carlson for an interview and welcomed the comparisons to Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro and Trump, his philosophy is distinctly libertarian. He has called for an Ayn Rand-styled “Atlas rebellion” and literally destroyed a central bank piñata on national TV....


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: albertofernandez; argentina; javiermilei; sergiomassa
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To: central_va

Here is an example of their fantasy world childishness.

Here is the full version of the Libertarian position on immigration.

COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”THE ISSUE: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

THE PRINCIPLE: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

SOLUTIONS: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

TRANSITIONAL ACTION: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


21 posted on 11/20/2023 7:07:25 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MtnClimber

Javier Milei, on his way to becoming the world’s next multi $ billionaire.


22 posted on 11/20/2023 7:11:09 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: All

He can talk the talk but can he walk the walk


23 posted on 11/20/2023 7:11:42 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: PGR88

Better math skills?


24 posted on 11/20/2023 7:14:51 AM PST by x
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To: marktwain

I tend to agree with you, particularly if you don’t use the word ‘fascism’, although there is a difference between the way that word is used in jargon now generically and it’s actual historic origins. Most authoritarian tyranny in the last century has been the cause of leftists.

The problem with these leftist/globalist types who write these articles is that they think anyone who doesn’t think like them is “far right”, and they think authoritarian power is perfectly justified if they are a true believer in their cause as “helping people” somehow. Anyone else who doesn’t want to use power to help their cause must be “far right”, even libertarians who don’t necessarily have to be left or right at all, just anti-authoritarian.

What it all really comes down to with these people is power. Losing power scares the hell out of them, and they can’t see what they really are in the mirror, because they justify their tyrant goals as beneficial.


25 posted on 11/20/2023 7:15:21 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: MtnClimber

He could be good, but he has to realize that libertarian dogmas don’t necessarily fit the world as it is.


26 posted on 11/20/2023 7:15:37 AM PST by x
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To: MtnClimber
I don’t read Spanish, and don’t have any knowledge about Latin American economies and history beyond what would expect any well-educated person to have.

Having said that, I know the only long-term successful economic reform in that part of the world was carried about under a military government, that of Augusta Pinochet, in neighboring Chile. It turned that country into the jewel of Latin America. While still characterized by some poverty, it drew illegal immigrants from other dysfunctional economies in the region desperate for work. (Sound familiar?) in recent years the corrosive virus of mass democracy has threatened to overturn a lot of it, but so far the main pillars of the Pinochet reforms AFAIK are still intact.

Argentina is fairly similar to Chile, a fairly well-educated population, a country with significant potential to escape the trap of its stupid infatuation with something-for-nothing economics. But I think Mr, Milei had better strike while the iron is hot. Reform maximally, immediately. The parasite economy is chock full of pressure groups eager to feed. Make Argentines responsible for their own food, housing and retirement, and let Argentines get ahead by providing these things. Let them buy from foreign producers and sell to foreign buyers as they wish, and not as some overeducated minister just knows they should. Let them compete, and let then live free from the completely unnecessary burden of high inflation. Then hope it starts to pay off fast.

27 posted on 11/20/2023 7:15:43 AM PST by untenured
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To: untenured
Correct.

You have to institute as much reform as you can, as quickly as you can.

And, do not allow the left to dominate the media.

28 posted on 11/20/2023 7:20:25 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ansel12
Immigration has always been the main disagreement with libertarian ideology for me.

It is why I left the party.

You cannot defend the country if you have open borders.

29 posted on 11/20/2023 7:22:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MtnClimber

He has promised to institute the dollar as legal tender, close the central bank, and close about half the government ministries outright.


30 posted on 11/20/2023 7:29:54 AM PST by marron
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To: MtnClimber

“Viva la libertarian carajo!”


31 posted on 11/20/2023 7:30:32 AM PST by marron
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To: PGR88
CONGRATULATIONS! Your post #17 brings to the forefront, and shines the light on, WHAT EVERY American should be AWARE of as we head into the 2024 election.


32 posted on 11/20/2023 7:34:21 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: marron

Damn spell-correct. “Viva la libertad carajo!”. His slogan.


33 posted on 11/20/2023 7:34:23 AM PST by marron
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To: ansel12

“We welcome all refugees…” The problem of course is the present assumption that all of them are refugees. And the other problem that a lot of refugees are toxic to a free society.


34 posted on 11/20/2023 7:37:46 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Retired American snowbirds should consider spending their winters(+ their $$) there.
Southern Hemisphere. Watch the toilet water spin opposite.

It would be great to join an expat group that follows the news for us non-Spanish speakers.


35 posted on 11/20/2023 7:42:10 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: z3n

Informative diagram. Useful in the classroom.


36 posted on 11/20/2023 7:42:27 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: z3n

I can understand why anyone who isn’t a libertarian might make that mistake. However, many libertarians just want liberty, and to be left alone, particularly by government, but they do think government, or at least civil order, has a place. Not only should you be free to do what you want, so long as you aren’t harming or taking from anyone, but you are also free not to be harmed or stolen from. That is a HUGE difference from anarchy.
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I assume you’re a Libertarian. I’m a hardcore Conservative but I’m strongly supportive the principles you’ve mentioned here, especially the right to be left alone. And I despise HOAs for that very reason. Your thoughts?


37 posted on 11/20/2023 7:42:48 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I’ve never belong to an HOA, so I have an outsider’s view, but the idea of paying people to foist a bunch of rules on you, is comical to me.

Like all things, I think there should be a balance. I can tolerate quote a bit, but if you are leaving junk cars in your front yard, I start to have to deal with my own hypocrisy.

Some people choose to join HOAs. If that’s what they want, and they are getting the services and the uniformity that they seek, more power to them.


38 posted on 11/20/2023 7:48:08 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: MtnClimber

People want these enormous wasteful governments cut back.
Here in America, we really should cut government in half.


39 posted on 11/20/2023 7:49:50 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: central_va

—> Libertareans are anarchists.

… in the nicest possible way 😊


40 posted on 11/20/2023 7:53:26 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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