Posted on 11/04/2023 1:36:46 AM PDT by RandFan
“We’re seeing a disturbing continued trend of cardiac arrests in people who have taken the vaccine,” reported world-renowned cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough Friday.
“Now we have data from Nakahara in a human cardiac PET study showing that positron emission tomography scans of the heart change in almost everybody who took the shot, at least for six months or longer, where the heart’s metabolism changes.”
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I don’t recall which one it was, but probably one with Dr. Malone. Here’s a link to the general topic.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=darkhorse+mRNA+concentrations+in+the+blood
Most people I've known who hold an MPH are veterinarians. I actually wouldn't ask them for medical advice.
Epidemiology is the science of tracking down and identifying the cause/source of disease. It is not strictly related to infectious disease. An epidemiologist might, for example, be tasked with tracking down the source of an outbreak of radiation injuries or chemical exposures in an area.
If I am sick with an infectious disease--e.g. leptospirosis--I don't want to consult an epidemiologist. While knowing where the disease came from might be academically interesting, I'm far more interested in consulting a doctor with experience in treating infectious disease. I wouldn't ask for a consult with a cardiologist to get treated for leptospirosis.
Public health is vitally important, but many of the people involved are not physicians or health care providers in any capacity.
You're a liar.
I started using it before anyone else on FR (and was, as far as I can tell, one of the first to use it anywhere, at least across the right-of-center sites I lurk on).
I chose it explicitly to avoid validating the Marxist Newspeak of Anthony Pfauci and his fellow damned Satanists who revised the very dictionary definition of a vaccine to continue their lie that the clot shots worked, and to continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the gullible, for a time.
The CDC collects all death data for every death that occurs in the US. Each year, the CDC analyzes the data for the year before and publishes it. Anyone can look at the death data; you can find it by searching "cdc death statistics [year]" in any search engine.
And while COVID was raging, they were careful to assign all causes of death "with" COVID, to "from" COVID: and also careful to change the definition of "vaccinated" to two weeks after the jab "because it takes that long to express antibodies." Which is like saying a girl's a virgin until her pregnancy starts showing.
It also conVEEEEEEENiently allowed Pfauci & company to shove all kinds of adverse events off the "official" CDC records.
Anecdotes are NOT scientific evidence!
...except if you need them in a desperate rearguard action to defend the clot shots.
Sounds like Miss Information.
(Do you prefer to go by Miss Information, or by Dingbat, from now on?)
Your arrogance is always on display. Yes, people died suddenly before covid shots, the fact that the rate is up this much statistically, is on the shots.
I did not mention my niece that went into shock 20 minutes after the damned shot, and my best friend’s niece went into a coma within 4 hours of the shot. She had a large blood clot. Both were under 32 at time. My niece now suffers from multiple auto-immune disorders, and my friend’s niece now has trouble walking and speaking.
People like you who defend the shots as a “big nothing” are despicable. Only a fool ignores all of the evidence and attributes every bit of it to something other than the shot.
I know quite a few people at work and church that do not trust the medical industry at all anymore, and I am glad I will never see you for any “treatment.”
I personally know of an oncologist, and he said he has never seen the number of sudden stage 3 and 4 cancers as in the last two years. He is a person friend with a pathologist who confirms the massive increase in cancer, and all since the middle of 2021.
Dingbat is back.
She's now pretending a cardiologist is incompetent to talk about observed heart damage.
Despite her claim in other posts that doctors are unqualified to talk about anything but their own specialty, she's stepping out of her own claimed role as an infectious disease specialist (and only a PhD not an MD), to try to overrule a cardiologist talking about health issues with the human heart.
She also ignored my post to her on an earlier thread, which quoted from a poster on an entirely different site:
I am on the liver transplant list due to a fairly rare autoimmune disease. Primary Biliary Cholangitis. (PBC)
Met with the transplant surgeon last week. He said he has 4 patients fighting for their lives right now due to MRNA antibodies attacking their newly transplanted liver. He said “I know it is not a popular opinion, but the proof is there.” He also said he is writing a paper on this. He has a PHD in immunology and 93 peer-reviewed papers. He said do NOT get the shots.
(This is a major hospital in Canada, He is the head transplant surgeon) I was totally surprised and glad that I had been able to resist all shots even though pressured from others at the same hospital.)
Remember, she used to be an army recruiter and the government paid for her schooling.
Oh, and did I mention she took "In the course of getting my undergraduate then my PhD degrees, I had to take physics, classes on several types of chemistry, statistics, biology, genetics, and mathematics up through calculus. "
So she knows more than a practicing doctor treating his patients, who also has a PhD in *IMMUNOLOGY* and 93 peer-reviewed papers.
Which, as I recall, blow away her objections to "all anti-vaxxers are
a)grifters
b)trying to sell supplements
c)can't understand the science
"
Remember, Dingbat, it only takes ONE counterexample to destroy a declarative statement.
Don't worry, I'm just getting started.
Please explain how, exactly, I misrepresented McCullough’s credentials.
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HOW???...............the man had considerable credentials and certainly was qualified to render an opinion on this most important subject. You unnecessarily went too far in your criticism of him thus calling into question your motivations.
No, I'm saying that a cardiologist is not an expert qualified to discuss infectious disease or vaccine science.
Does my education and experience in biochemistry and molecular biology qualify me as an airplane design engineer? I mean, I had to learn genetic engineering... it's the same thing, right?
She also ignored my post to her on an earlier thread, which quoted from a poster on an entirely different site:
I'm not going to repost the quote. As you yourself pointed out in your post that you linked, the story is an anecdote. Unfortunately, in this case, it looks like one of those "just so" stories invented to "prove" a point. Anyone can say anything, especially if they are especially motivated by a desire to "prove" something. People put fake reports in VAERS, too, to "prove" the "dangers" of vaccines.
Once, a guy told me that he had talked to my husband and my husband had even given him $50 to take me out on a date. Do you think I told him, "Well, since my husband obviously approves, meet me after work!" Or did I show a bit of skepticism and tell him to get lost? You can't believe everything people say.
A vague reference to a transplant surgeon who also happens to have a PhD in immunology, with no information about who the surgeon might be, which states that a "paper is being written", and uses undefined terms such as "MRNA antibodies" isn't exactly a credible reference.
Antibodies are made of protein, not mRNA.
There can be antibodies that react against mRNA, but those antibodies won't react to mRNA inside cells. That's because they can't see it. Also, if they are antibodies against mRNA encoding spike protein, they won't react against human mRNA because humans don't make mRNA encoding spike protein. Now, if "MRNA antibody" is actually referring to antibodies made against the spike protein, then they also won't attack the liver unless the liver is covered with spike protein, presumably because it is saturated with SARS-CoV-2 virus.
So she knows more than a practicing doctor treating his patients, who also has a PhD in *IMMUNOLOGY* and 93 peer-reviewed papers.
I know more about the biology of infectious agents, the molecular processes of infection, early drug development, and countermeasures against infectious disease than some transplant immunologist who may be fictional.
You quote FAUCI? You are a follower, not a leader. We expect Doctors to be interested and conversant in various types of specialties. Where were you when they were misusing PCR tests to diagnose illness? Sorry, you are on the wrong side of this history test, as libtards often write or say.
Thank you.
Well, there is no such thing as “natural COVID”
This virus was created in a lab giving an existing corona virus the ability to bind to the human ACE receptors. -Making it deadly to some humans
Imo, The spike protein is disease causing, no matter how it gets in you.
Let me remind you of your OWN quote, delivered within the past week or so:
Please explain how, exactly, I misrepresented McCullough's credentials. He *is* a cardiologist with some expertise in the effects of heart disease on kidney function. He is *not* an infectious disease physician or a researcher in infectious disease. He may have treated some patients whose cardiovascular systems were damaged by Covid, but that does not make him a vaccine or infectious disease expert.
Why is this relevant?
The headline quote from the article is:
Now we have data from Nakahara in a human cardiac PET study showing that positron emission tomography scans of the heart change in almost everybody who took the shot, at least for six months or longer, where the heart’s metabolism changes.”
How much did your training in physics teach you specifically about Positron Emission Tomography?
Do you know anything about cardiac metabolism?
Do you know jack squat about cardiology? He's one of the top cardiologists who ever lived.
And he's talking about people *known to have taken the clot shots.*>p> He is not saying, as you did about the connection of COVID infection rates (known to have been inflated by the CDC) to the St. Floyd of Fentanyl riots, "look, they happened one after the other, so it MUST have been the shote"
post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallcay.
He's sahing, lwe already know these people took the shots. We have clinical evidence of such-and-such cardiac dysfunction, which, in my role as one of the top cardiologists in the world, I am eminently capable of discussing. Here's what we observed using PET..."
But suddenly, you, because INFECTIOUS DISEASE! suddenly think you're allowed to debate him on his own turf.
I know more about the biology of infectious agents, the molecular processes of infection, early drug development, and countermeasures against infectious disease than some transplant immunologist who may be fictional.
He's busy saving peoples lives from the effects of the adulterated mRNA (modified RNA, name "coincidentally" chosen, so that vermin like you could pretend people who mention it don't know what they're talking about) -- modified RNA, specifically engineered so that it doesn't get broken up in the body following the transcription process.
See. once you've got the jab, the molecular process of infection, early drug development, and infectious disease countermeasures is (as you like to point out) IRRELEVANT.
Why? Because that artificial RNA, designed and tested so that the body won't break it down, isn't a disease. It's not an infectious agent, because it was designed by a committed, created on an assembly line, encapsulated in an artificial membrane, and injected into the body. If you want to call it a drug, it's only a drug for the Big Pharma execs (see the earlier article from STAT) who are addicted to the promise of money, much as the addition of acetyl groups to morphine created heroin.
And again, notice your disdain, blindly assuming everything that goes against your propaganda narrative is necessarily false (your tone of voice, so to speak.
Someone acting as a real scientist, upon hearing of the clinical experience combined with the professional credentials right up their alley, would have taken a couple hours on Google and looked up all th liver specialists in Ontario, and seen if any of them had PhDs in immunology.
Re: 24 - more re: Fauci tomorrow.
Hi Dingbat.
Can we parse this bullcrap of yours?
"Excess deaths are set to increase again because more people are no longer getting vaccinated and are, therefore, no longer protected.".
Remember when I reminded you that Pfauci & Co. changed the definition of a "vaccine" to cover for the abysmal failure of the clot shots?
Lies like yours are why they had to do it.
let's review what the top leaders in industry, top government officals, and the like, said in public about the clot shots:
He have Dr. Anthony Fauci, saying in public, under his own name:
"When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected."
I note that according to you, he has over 1,000 peer-reviewed publications.
Rochelle Walensky, MD (CDC Director) said "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus and don't get sick."
I note in passing she was an internal medicine doc from Hopkins, and only has an MPH from Harvard.
So by your hypothesis, we can rely on them.
By their words, if you have EVER been vaccinated, you should be forever immune from the virus.
So by definition, all of the new deaths must be resulting from
a) cases among the never-jabbed (Walensky, vaccinated people DO NOT CARRY the virus)
b) who either die from it directly
or
c) pass it on to other un-jabbed people who then die from it.
But you said "because more people are no longer getting vaccinated and are, therefore, no longer protected."
Nobody mentioned boosters you know. It was supposed to be one and you're done.
So you finally admit they were lying?
Or are you lying now?
Is that simple enough? Or do I have to try to explain it in kindergarten level language?
Dingbat. I had been going to post something else but this was just too easy of a target.
Hi Dingbat.
I guess it’s never dawned on you yet, that an MD talking to a patient may talk in the vernacular?
The CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla, is a veterinarian.
And Rochelle Walensky, head of the CDC, is an MPH.
Oh wait. You took CALCULUS!
I must be wrong or something, because SCIENCE™!
I know. That's what worries me. When I say natural covid, I mean covid you caught from somebody else. Even though it was created in a lab, it still travels the same way, person to person. My concern is that it carries all of the dangers as the 'vax'.
“In before the FR paid vaxx shills”
Too late, Baby. stillDemMom squeaked in just before you. LOL!
The day after she turned 98, Mom fell and broke her hip. The next day she had a total of hip replacement at a hospital in Rochester, NY.
She hadn’t had a clot shot, and refused to get one. After surgery, she still refused the shot, so she was in strict isolation, and treated like a leper both in the hospital and at the recovery home.
She’ll turn 100 on 2024, and still refuses the “vax”. (And she wears her “Don’t blame me. I voted for Trump” tee shirt as often as possible - LOL!)
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