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To: aMorePerfectUnion; exDemMom; ransomnote; bitt; Jane Long; Melian; SeekAndFind; Bikkuri
Missed it by one post.

Dingbat is back.

She's now pretending a cardiologist is incompetent to talk about observed heart damage.

Despite her claim in other posts that doctors are unqualified to talk about anything but their own specialty, she's stepping out of her own claimed role as an infectious disease specialist (and only a PhD not an MD), to try to overrule a cardiologist talking about health issues with the human heart.

She also ignored my post to her on an earlier thread, which quoted from a poster on an entirely different site:

I am on the liver transplant list due to a fairly rare autoimmune disease. Primary Biliary Cholangitis. (PBC)

Met with the transplant surgeon last week. He said he has 4 patients fighting for their lives right now due to MRNA antibodies attacking their newly transplanted liver. He said “I know it is not a popular opinion, but the proof is there.” He also said he is writing a paper on this. He has a PHD in immunology and 93 peer-reviewed papers. He said do NOT get the shots.

(This is a major hospital in Canada, He is the head transplant surgeon) I was totally surprised and glad that I had been able to resist all shots even though pressured from others at the same hospital.)

Remember, she used to be an army recruiter and the government paid for her schooling.

Oh, and did I mention she took "In the course of getting my undergraduate then my PhD degrees, I had to take physics, classes on several types of chemistry, statistics, biology, genetics, and mathematics up through calculus. "

So she knows more than a practicing doctor treating his patients, who also has a PhD in *IMMUNOLOGY* and 93 peer-reviewed papers.

Which, as I recall, blow away her objections to "all anti-vaxxers are
a)grifters
b)trying to sell supplements
c)can't understand the science
"

Remember, Dingbat, it only takes ONE counterexample to destroy a declarative statement.

Don't worry, I'm just getting started.

67 posted on 11/04/2023 1:13:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
She's now pretending a cardiologist is incompetent to talk about observed heart damage.

No, I'm saying that a cardiologist is not an expert qualified to discuss infectious disease or vaccine science.

Does my education and experience in biochemistry and molecular biology qualify me as an airplane design engineer? I mean, I had to learn genetic engineering... it's the same thing, right?

She also ignored my post to her on an earlier thread, which quoted from a poster on an entirely different site:

I'm not going to repost the quote. As you yourself pointed out in your post that you linked, the story is an anecdote. Unfortunately, in this case, it looks like one of those "just so" stories invented to "prove" a point. Anyone can say anything, especially if they are especially motivated by a desire to "prove" something. People put fake reports in VAERS, too, to "prove" the "dangers" of vaccines.

Once, a guy told me that he had talked to my husband and my husband had even given him $50 to take me out on a date. Do you think I told him, "Well, since my husband obviously approves, meet me after work!" Or did I show a bit of skepticism and tell him to get lost? You can't believe everything people say.

A vague reference to a transplant surgeon who also happens to have a PhD in immunology, with no information about who the surgeon might be, which states that a "paper is being written", and uses undefined terms such as "MRNA antibodies" isn't exactly a credible reference.

Antibodies are made of protein, not mRNA.

There can be antibodies that react against mRNA, but those antibodies won't react to mRNA inside cells. That's because they can't see it. Also, if they are antibodies against mRNA encoding spike protein, they won't react against human mRNA because humans don't make mRNA encoding spike protein. Now, if "MRNA antibody" is actually referring to antibodies made against the spike protein, then they also won't attack the liver unless the liver is covered with spike protein, presumably because it is saturated with SARS-CoV-2 virus.

So she knows more than a practicing doctor treating his patients, who also has a PhD in *IMMUNOLOGY* and 93 peer-reviewed papers.

I know more about the biology of infectious agents, the molecular processes of infection, early drug development, and countermeasures against infectious disease than some transplant immunologist who may be fictional.

69 posted on 11/04/2023 1:52:59 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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