Posted on 10/24/2023 1:22:01 AM PDT by Libloather
Toyota has said it is close to being able to mass manufacture potentially revolutionary solid-state batteries that could offer double the range of existing electric cars.
According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.
They have been presented by experts as a revolutionary technology that could bring EVs into the mainstream.
Switching to an electric vehicle is out of reach for many Americans, experts have warned, as a lack of access to charging ports mean they fear being left stranded in shorter-range vehicles.
The driving range of electric cars varies between models, but is typically around 300 miles.
While solid-state batteries could be revolutionary, they also present challenges for manufacturers. According to Toyota, one of the most significant hurdles is the assembly process, in which layers of cathode and anode cells need to be stacked quickly and precisely.
Claims that Toyota is on the brink of being of being able to mass manufacture solid-state batteries were first published in the Financial Times on Monday.
'In terms of the stacking speed, we are almost there. We are going to roll out bigger volumes and check the quality,' an engineer for the company told the outlet.
Earlier this month, Toyota CEO Koji Sato announced that the firm would partner with major Japanese oil refiner Idemitsu Kosan on the project to manufacture the batteries.
'With repeated efforts involving trial and error, we have succeeded in developing a material that is more stable and less prone to crack,' Sato told reporters in Tokyo during an announcement with Idemitsu.
'The future of mobility lies in the tie-up between the auto and energy sectors, including this innovation hailing from Japan,' he said.
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All we need is one EMP 400 miles over our heads, courtesy of Russia or China, and it’s all for nought.
It’s not quite that bad but your point is still valid. The battery pack is probably somewhere between 500 and 800 vdc rated taking the best case scenario of 800 volts it would require a 1500 Amp connection. That is usually a bus bar not Cable.
The bad news is, you need liquid nitrogen to cool it … (/s)
The 745 mile range battery could work if we triple the size and it could charge in 10 minutes if we somehow violate the laws of physics. It could be in 2027, 2037 or heck even 2525. We will get back to you when we've been able to pump get Mr Fusion working.
My mother used to say if something seems too good to be true it probably isn’t true.
“could offer”
Magic words and phrases like this are favored by press release and advertising copy writers, along with “up to”, “as much as”, “buy one and get one free”, and many others.
“The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away.”
Call me when the battery life is 200,000 miles.
While most of the auto manufacturers jumped in with both feet to try and keep up with Tesla or because Obama seized them and forced them to go EV, Toyota decided to hold back so they could come up with something practical and better. If they announce a breakthrough 10 years later, believe it.
Could?!
1.2 jiggawatts.........
I don’t see in the article where it says that the Toyota solid state batteries don’t contain lithium. That means they DO contain lithium.
If I hear anyone in power discussing how much increased energry generation (NOT solar and wind) is needed to even think about large scale EV implementation, I will reconsider my closed stance to it.
As is is, the battery or motive technology is not there, and the only reason for this EV idiocy is to prop up a hoax (Anthropoegenic Climate Change) or increase the government’s ability to limit our movements or support other such tyranny. This may change with a variety of technological advances, such as room temperature superconductors, etc. but things like this smack of the Fusion Reactor technology that has always been 5-10 years away for the past 40 years.
If they address both of these things, I will re-think my position on EV implementation. But until it is taken seriously by the people pushing it I will continue to view it skeptically and dismissively.
“close to”
Hard not to take this as cheap fusion energy is only 10 years away again.
The only way this works is if private at home charging of EVs is illegal. It keeps “gas stations” in business and more importantly allows collection of taxes on the electricity used, like gasoline taxes are today.
The electricity necessary for charging still must be produced in some manner, to say nothing of the massive infrastructure necessary to support mainstream EV adoption.
How come they don’t tell you anything about how prevailing conditions - freezing and heavy electric heat use, 100 degrees and heavy A/C use, passenger load, etc., affect performance and range?
They use optimal conditions for their guestimates and have a history of padding them by 20% or more.
Time will tell.
LOL, I was burned by it back in the early Eighties...
1980: “Ten years away from fusion power? Woohoo! Cheap, plentiful power!!! Happy Days are here again!”
1990: “Ten years away from fusion power? Woohoo! Cheap, plentiful power!!! Happy Days are here again!”
2000: “Ten years away from fusion power? Woohoo! Cheap, plentiful power!!! Happy Days are here again!”
2010: “Ten years away from fusion power? Woohoo! Cheap, plentiful power!!! Happy Days are here again!”
2020: “Ten years away from fusion power? Woohoo! Cheap, plentiful power!!! Happy Days are here again!”
“less prone to crack” - that’s what jumped out at me. Just how prone is it, especially in these pot-holed roads around where I live?
FTFY
And I agree wholeheartedly.
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