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So much for gender fluidity. But what is ignored in the article is that the male is ordained of God to be the unselfish leaders in the martial and family unit (and by extension, in society at large), after the divine order.

1 posted on 09/23/2023 1:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212
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Women can play a vital roll in the military “in the rear with the gear.” They do not belong in combat rolls.


37 posted on 09/23/2023 2:24:34 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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I would whole heartedly agree that males are supposed to be the unselfish leaders....I just wish they would be those unselfish leaders....

most men are stuck on their little "heads" and can't seem to think like leaders....

I believe its a relatively new phenomenon since the age of constant media with constant sexual messages have sadly destroyed the leadership and the character of modern men...its all deliberate IMO...

like Paul Harvey said many yrs ago ,in so many words....

society is destroyed from within when morality takes the back seat to pleasure and convenience...

I long for the days when the type of men like my father were the majority....

43 posted on 09/23/2023 2:44:06 PM PDT by cherry
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Women in combat, who are captured; will be sex slaves to the captor.

Their fighting company, will take suicidal actions to prevent this; roles which are definitely not reciprocal. Women cannot carry the weight that a man can, and will not be as effective in action. This is the harsh reality that Israel learned

During Operation Desert Storm, we had a female soldier captured and abused. She was given considerations NO OTHER soldier would expect. This is a reality of life


45 posted on 09/23/2023 2:48:18 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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I recall reading that with women in combat, it puts males at risk due to their inherent nature to protect them vs. focusing on the enemy.


52 posted on 09/23/2023 3:09:46 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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Not banned.

No Combat Arms, Combat Crews, or in cockpits that go into harm’s way. No ships or boats at all...EVER. Nurses and doctors allowed to be the closest to the fighting. Hospital ships allowed as well.

The military is not supposed to be available for a career for women and thus they be allowed to be in combat or lead combat troops of any kind. The whole premise and subsequent lowering of standards was to allow women into the MOSs/AFSCs to further their careers rather than fight wars.

Sorry ladies, but if you want into the military you should understand the limitations if you want to stay in. Women should NEVER be allowed into combat.


53 posted on 09/23/2023 3:11:00 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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I never could get past the gender bending during my time in the US Army. It’s a big reason why I strongly disliked the Army and regretted joining. I never really did “feel like a man.” Now I can say I do. The company I work for as a civilian is virtually all male (except for a few secretaries).


60 posted on 09/23/2023 3:29:13 PM PDT by Big Brother Go to Hell
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My niece served as an Army nurse in Iraq. She came home with PTSD from the carnage she saw. Got married to another vet and had children. She has been way too protective of those kids, although that is subsiding, as her husband moderates those overly protective impulses.
There are some things a mother, or future mother, shouldn’t see. She needs to have peace, love and sunshine on her mind, not horrific nightmares. For the good of her children.
I would be very careful about how and where our young women serve their country.


61 posted on 09/23/2023 3:34:38 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Wrong question.

The issue is, Should women be allowed into the combat arms MOSs?

No. And they shouldn’t be on a navy ship either.


63 posted on 09/23/2023 3:40:30 PM PDT by Salvavida
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Of course women shouldn’t be banned. Someone needs to make sammiches.


66 posted on 09/23/2023 3:58:34 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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its simple, women carry grudges . forever. And they cannot separate work from personal issued. they are all too emotional to function under stressful conditions. health reasons, - they stink for 1 week a month. theres no cohesion in a mixed gender company. a guy cant hall off and fight a woman. shed lose 999/1000 fights. then hold a grudge and would frag a guy a year later.


71 posted on 09/23/2023 4:22:44 PM PDT by Ikeon (Dont like what you see? then look away. )
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Yes!
We’ll need them working in the war factories and shipyards again when the SHTF...


76 posted on 09/23/2023 4:44:14 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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1. The Armed Forces operate on a fixed budget.

2. Men make more cost-efficient soldiers (Marines, etc) than women do.

You do the math.

How many women play in the NFL?


82 posted on 09/23/2023 5:44:35 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Is the kitchen under attack? *dodges projectiles*


84 posted on 09/23/2023 5:50:35 PM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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Many decades ago I was stationed at a Strategic Air Command base. There were three females stationed there at the time I arrived. All three were nurses. One was dating a major who was a senior pilot. The other two were dating each other.


89 posted on 09/23/2023 6:47:08 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: daniel1212; kenmcg; airborne; redfreedom; ansel12; Yo-Yo
I am not good at stating my positions in a few sentences, so here is the essay I post in December.

Social Engineering Defeats Combat Capabilities

Obama’s defense department announcement on December 3 of 2015 about women in combat following repeal of DADT demonstrates attachment to a political ideology fueled by arrogance and reinforced by premeditated ignorance. The defense secretary Ash Carter’s supposed managing any long period of study and vigorous debate sought only those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve a social agenda bringing future needless devastation.

Most of the points highlighted about women in combat arose first when the decision was made to do away with DADT. Subsequently, the LGBTQ and whatever communities were invited into the mainstream of military operations. In the case of DADT, the fervor driving a delusional Congress and Administration found comfort from a fallacious study conclusion which showed supposed support for their decision using populations which included garrison and base housing personnel. However, the trigger pullers at the core of military operations rejected the idea.

The foundational comfort for this approach harked back on dubious scientific credibility. In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association (APA) decided to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Removal followed a two-year campaign Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout these disruptive attacks, no academic papers appeared at conferences refuting any research previously done. Eventually onslaughts forced sufficient abstentions, under-votes, and apprehensive responses for a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

After this decision, activists targeted leading individual researchers such as Dr. David Reuben, and Masters and Johnson to ensure perpetual sanctity for the APA action. No research papers would again arise to confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating that 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over decades enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia thereby ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved flexibility in research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements. Psychology and Psychiatry chose to relinquish scientific rigor for popular societal and political acclaim.

Neither decision was compatible with combat operations that too often demand unpredictable and unimaginable endurance and brutality to achieve victory. Only the highest physical abilities and most severe restrictions on human behaviors and interactions can foster the traditionally defined high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion required. Resorting to war for national defense entails the ultimate Olympics of conflict occurring at the bleeding edge of existence where the unbelievable must become the possible.

Human sexuality, and therefore LGBTQ behaviors and women, simply cannot intrude into this sub-culture where only those displaying the greatest savagely can hope to win. Particularly regarding women, national defense compels the highest in physical achievements where no excuse exists for merging men and women into war environments which are more severe than any found in the segregated Olympic competitions every four years. Certainly, that point becomes obvious with the controversy over transgender females competing in women’s sports.

Combat forms personnel into rigid, task-oriented units. They then descend into a squalid cacophony of shrieking, cursing, sobbing, crashing dissonance to orchestrate the killing of other humans under a discipline which should not allow for neither hate nor joy. These people continuously face extraordinary mental and physical stress and survive by acquiring the wisdom of wild animals that live in the moment without conveniences for eating, sleeping, resting, or other bodily functions. At the point of collision, they undertake operations requiring sacrificial, primitive, and intimate actions. They must display a noble fidelity to each other despite environments that are inherently chaotic, barbaric, and brittle. Overcoming within this alternate reality requires trained killers subject to a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who accept human sexuality in its now many varied forms and always see an opportunity for the social alchemy popular in civilian life.

The regimental combat teams for infantry, mechanized, and armored units and special forces units are now the playthings of bureaucrats committed to equal opportunity and affirmative action. They are dismissive of warriors enduring the carnage imperative for triumph. Institutional memories no longer exist for fighting ferocious, shrewd enemies such as the Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and North Vietnamese, who utilized a full array of modern weapons. If one notes the ribbons on any senior officer’s uniform, they show they fought only Arabs that Israelis beat three times at 20 to 1 odds.

Such people now question the necessity for standards which do not dismiss inferior female physical performance, or the psychological degradation of units forced to incorporate LGBTQ and feminist agendas. Social engineering that amalgamates women and these agendas has become the overarching imperative to which all operational capabilities must submit.

Women can serve in many rolls, but do not belong at the pointy end of the spear and should not be holding the spear to the extent they intrude into the fellowship of combat arms which ultimately depend upon savagery and physical strength for victory. LGBTQ behaviors simply have no place in our military where sexual extravagance breaks down unit cohesion.

As this tragedy unfolds, I will remember the quote that, “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up the abandonment of the military as the ultimate meritocracy. The uniforms have become costumes and the few true Americans who are deluded into enlisting will be cannon fodder for maintaining the DOD social agendas.

This tragedy of women in combat proceeding endorsement of LGBTQ+ behaviors provide another reason I now always council people to never enter the armed forces. In my wife’s and my families eight men volunteered and served over three generations, but never again.

Jordan Peterson: It’s ideology vs. science in psychology’s war on boys and men The coup of the American Psychological Association undertaken by the ideologues is now complete

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-its-ideology-vs-science-in-psychologys-war-on-boys-and-men

How LGBTQ+ Activists Got “Homosexuality” out of the DSM

https://daily.jstor.org/how-lgbtq-activists-got-homosexuality-out-of-the-dsm/

Homosexuality and Sexual Orientation Disturbance: Proposed Change in DSM-II, 6th Printing, page 44

http://www.torahdec.org/Downloads/DSM-II_Homosexuality_Revision.pdf

The APA Decision

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+APA+decision+December+1973%3A+declassification+of+homosexuality+as...-a094598255

Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal

http://traditionalvalues.org/content/article/30884/Exposed:%20The%20Myth%20That%20Psychiatry%20Has%20Proven%20That%20Homosexual%20Behavior%20Is%20Normal

Will Hamas place benches to help female IDF soldiers?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/226508

'Integrating women into combat is a colossal failure'

israelnationalnews.com

A retired Marine 3-star general explains 'critical military theory'

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/critical-military-theory/

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder'

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4135443/posts

narrative about women in combat

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/pings

The Rise of Wokeness in the Military

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-rise-of-wokeness-in-the-military/?utm_campaign=imprimis&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=221718031&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9Xjuto2_1WriIUkx_jdk5QElOyYdkBwGxMMkkh6ee4CS7GbXf2tgYusFIUStVlDE0NXaM476gNPe1X9X4ZeztsOok4-Q&utm_content=221718031&utm_source=hs_email

Woke military: Lt. Col. calls cops on mom concerned about LGBTQ indoctrination

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4115099/posts

Pentagon manual details rules for transgender military personnel

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/19/pentagon-manual-details-rules-for-transgender-military-personnel.html

Exclusive: Army Training Says Soldiers Must Shower with Transgender Persons of Opposite Sex

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/07/exclusive-army-training-says-soldiers-must-shower-transgender-persons-opposite-sex/

Lieutenant David Nartker must be Court-Martialed

http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/04/lieutenant-david-nartker-must-be-court-martialed/

Everything wrong with the Biden military in one paragraph

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/05/everything_wrong_with_the_biden_military_in_one_paragraph_.html

Military Service by Transgender Persons and Persons with Gender Dysphoria: An Implementation Handbook

https://prhome.defense.gov/Portals/52/Documents/MRA_Docs/MPP/DoD%20TG%20Handbook%20%209-4-20.pdf?ver=2020-09-18-084002-300#:~:text=The%202018%20policy%201%20titled%20"Military%20Service%20by,policy%20for%20those%20Service%20members%20who%20entered%20the

The disastrous Woke trend in Biden’s military puts Americans at grave risk

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/05/the_disastrous_woke_trend_in_bidens_military_puts_americans_at_grave_risk.html

People Sleep Peacefully in Their Beds

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

Air Force Academy Cadets Don’t Know What Their Oath to the Constitution Means

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/04/14/air-force-academy-cadets-dont-know-what-their-oath-to-the-constitution-means-n1687416

Air Force Academy Touts New Program To Combat Politicization In The Military

https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/12/air-force-academy-touts-new-program-to-combat-politicization-in-the-military/

92 posted on 09/23/2023 7:58:16 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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We can talk about what’s best for military preparedness all we want. The question is, what are we going to do about it?


98 posted on 09/24/2023 4:16:55 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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God intended for men to protect their women. Not the other way around.


103 posted on 09/24/2023 6:18:43 AM PDT by sport
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Yesterday C-SPAN had an interesting program (a re-run from May 2023) featuring Andrew Bledsoe talking about decisions made by the leaders on both sides in the battle of Franklin (Nov. 30, 1864), a major defeat for the Confederacy.

If the U.S. Army had adopted gender integrated units by 1864, maybe that battle would have turned out differently.

111 posted on 09/24/2023 12:58:11 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Should women be banned from the armed forces?

Of course not, even the military needs cooks.

116 posted on 09/25/2023 10:58:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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