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Should women be banned from the armed forces? If so, why? ["inherent biological differences...the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women"]
quora.com ^ | Jan 6, 2023 | Beni Habzay Former [Isreali] Infantry soldier

Posted on 09/23/2023 1:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212

Yes! And I [the author] say this as someone who served in an army that boasts about its female soldiers.

So I hope that even if you disagree with me, you'll bear with me and read till the end…

FACT TIME

* The Israeli defense forces stopped using actual female combat soldiers after 1948. This was when they noticed that coed combat units suffered close to 50% higher casualty rates than all male units, and were worlds less effective when it came to mission completion.

* Due to this fact, women were barred from all combat roles in the IDF until several co-ed units were created in 1990 at the behest of progressive politicians.

* The remaining co-ed infantry units in the IDF are purely ornamental.

The males who joined these units join them because they couldn't cut it to be in the regular combat units, the females who join these units are the cream of the crop and still are outperformed by the substandard males.

I could go on and on about the inherent biological differences making men stronger and more durable than women, but at the end of the day, the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women, not the fact that we can lift more than they do.

If a tribe or a village loses half its male population in a war, they can bounce back. But if that same tribe or village loses half of their female population, then they will not survive the next generation. I would even make the case that man's desire to protect his mother, his wife, his children and grandchildren born and unborn; are our biggest driving factors for putting ourselves out there and doing it dangerous job because it needs to be done.


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KEYWORDS: complementarianism; femalecombat; feminism; sarahpalin; whoresinwars; womensoldiers
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To: ansel12

Women are good in surveillance and intelligence roles. They make good analysts. There were some naval warfare ratings that women did just fine with and were at no greater risk than the men. Problem is the lack of common sense about it these days and pretending there are no differences between the sexes. Does it make sense to put women on submarines? I don’t think so. Battlefield roles when the shells and the sh— flies? No.


101 posted on 09/24/2023 5:56:34 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Salvavida
Wrong question. The issue is, Should women be allowed into the combat arms MOSs? No. And they shouldn’t be on a navy ship either.

No, while the author himself does not argue against women being in the military at all, yet exclusion goes beyond combat, as it extends to leadership as well as standards for physical fitness.

102 posted on 09/24/2023 6:14:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: daniel1212

God intended for men to protect their women. Not the other way around.


103 posted on 09/24/2023 6:18:43 AM PDT by sport
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To: ansel12

Reading the post is an acquired taste.


104 posted on 09/24/2023 8:06:58 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike

That post just doesn’t read well, it is one thing to use some cut and paste that boosts a personal view but just posting a big sloppy article with a bunch of links to more, isn’t very enticing.


105 posted on 09/24/2023 8:32:49 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Flaming Conservative; daniel1212; Elsie

Revised and extends his remarks:

Never mind!

[Attempts to slink away unobtrusively...]


106 posted on 09/24/2023 10:05:13 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

That’s ok. I’ve read that passage many times, but I had to do a double take myself, for a moment.


107 posted on 09/24/2023 10:21:56 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Christ of the Father, Son of Man, there’s a reason we use the word mystery.


108 posted on 09/24/2023 10:23:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ansel12

Your opinion only.


109 posted on 09/24/2023 12:24:44 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike

Of course it is, but you should consider it.


110 posted on 09/24/2023 12:27:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: daniel1212
Yesterday C-SPAN had an interesting program (a re-run from May 2023) featuring Andrew Bledsoe talking about decisions made by the leaders on both sides in the battle of Franklin (Nov. 30, 1864), a major defeat for the Confederacy.

If the U.S. Army had adopted gender integrated units by 1864, maybe that battle would have turned out differently.

111 posted on 09/24/2023 12:58:11 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: montanajoe

Yeah, so long as they are far from combat — never can tell when you can be overrun.

As to biblical instructions — bugger that. So long as they can do the job let them.


112 posted on 09/24/2023 1:36:46 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Yesterday C-SPAN had an interesting program (a re-run from May 2023) featuring Andrew Bledsoe talking about decisions made by the leaders on both sides in the battle of Franklin (Nov. 30, 1864), a major defeat for the Confederacy. If the U.S. Army had adopted gender integrated units by 1864, maybe that battle would have turned out differently.

Meaning gender integrated combat units. And resulted in a nation progressing into weakness.

113 posted on 09/24/2023 7:28:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: Retain Mike
Thank you for the full essay, and I cannot find fault in it.

Your original essay excerpt I mistook to imply that combat was the only consideration as to whether females should serve in the military at all, and I took exception to that mistaken assumption.

However, your full essay essentially mirrors my own views and states them much more eloquently than I expressed them.

I am still of the firm belief that women should still have to register for the draft when they turn 18. I am not sure that an actual draft of women would occur in times of emergency, but just the fact that they have to register may alter their views of what it truly means to have equality with men in all things.

114 posted on 09/25/2023 6:39:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thank you.


115 posted on 09/25/2023 8:54:25 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: daniel1212
Should women be banned from the armed forces?

Of course not, even the military needs cooks.

116 posted on 09/25/2023 10:58:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: daniel1212

No, I merely stated we are asking the wrong question.


117 posted on 09/25/2023 5:16:19 PM PDT by Salvavida
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