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I hear over and over how we are and will be controlled electronically. Smart meters running appliances, information sucked out of cars and transmitted...
chickensoup | chickensoup

Posted on 09/16/2023 3:02:50 AM PDT by Chickensoup

I hear over and over how we are and will be controlled electronically. Smart meters running appliances, information sucked out of cars and transmitted...

So are there ways of shielding meters and cars from passing along information?

Just like there are people who change power settings on trucks with chips are there people who are designing items for protection of our privacy in consumer goods?

Or do we just cover everything in tinfoil?


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To: mewzilla

That’s awesome! Thanks for the morning laugh.

A car equipped with a transponder crosses a bridge over the Ohio River every now and then, and for some reason, I get a bill for the bridge toll. I can’t figure out why the bridge thinks it’s me in that car — maybe an old license plate because the bill goes to my old address....it’s a weird modern problem not sure how to solve or whether to bother....


21 posted on 09/16/2023 4:28:23 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Chickensoup

Avoid smart anything as much as possible.

There are “dumb” gadgets out there is you look.


22 posted on 09/16/2023 4:30:59 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: browniexyz

It’s not as funny as it used be.

It’s more like a preview of coming attractions.

But I love Weird Al.

If you get a chance to see him in concert you’ll have a great time!


23 posted on 09/16/2023 4:31:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Chickensoup
Remember when our overseers (fed gov) mandated that your seat belt needed to be connected for the car to start?

And when they found out that people were just leaving it connected on the seat (How dare you!!), they mandated that leaving it connected would drain your battery?

Fed gov loves their power and we will have to pry it back from their cold, dead hands.

24 posted on 09/16/2023 4:31:23 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Drago

Until the smart meter becomes mandatory, there’s no way I’m going to sign up for letting CPS energy control my thermostat.


25 posted on 09/16/2023 4:32:20 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: fruser1
Given the way the economy is going, I bet younguns are more into it now.

And it looks like FEMA didn't put a stop to it.

From MTG's office, yesterday...

H.R. 3413, AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act

26 posted on 09/16/2023 4:34:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: fruser1
I wouldn’t be surprised if the car companies get a slice out of every satellite subscription sold or stream to a car.

I think that is highly likely. I have a 14+ year old car that came with 6 months free Satellite radio. When the freebee ran out, I paid $300 for a lifetime subscription. At this point, I have paid about $1.75 per month for the service. There is not much of profit for SirusXM or the car company...

27 posted on 09/16/2023 4:38:42 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: jagusafr

“Smart Meters” and the “thermostat control rate plan” device are too separate items/devices...Smart Meters are mostly just a “lay off the meter readers to save $$” deal.


28 posted on 09/16/2023 4:40:26 AM PDT by Drago
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To: mewzilla

CD. What decade are you in. Most cars have, beside Bluetooth, USB drives. Mine has 600+ songs on it.


29 posted on 09/16/2023 4:45:23 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you. )
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To: Vaquero

We buy base trims.

Head and legroom are essential for me.

Not a high tech audio system.

I still use AM/FM mostly, especially since oldies is such a popular format.


30 posted on 09/16/2023 4:51:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Chickensoup

Don’t forget watching over our bank accounts...and everything we post on the web.


31 posted on 09/16/2023 4:56:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Chickensoup

I haven’t bought a new car in a while, but when I do, I’ll likely ‘disconnect’ a few things to make life more challenging for ‘them’ than it otherwise would be. Did the same for my sister who lives in a ‘smart’ apartment.


32 posted on 09/16/2023 5:03:45 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Drago

One has to forgo features to stop giving other people information and build some of their own infrastructure. People need to educate themselves on how to set up multiple networks and granting privileges to only things they want to talk to world on. When I say home infrastructure a few very small computers running linux and not some service in the cloud somewhere.

The cameras I use are typically subsidised by a cloud subscription, but they haply work day one with the freeware controller. I have to buy the right smart plugs and bulbs but most home automation devices are under one of the free projects controls.

My home appliance’s, cameras and home automation use a controller ran on a raspberry pi that is not connected to the internet. A single USB stick keeps video for months, burns less than 12W and no cooling fan. Battery backup is a boat battery. Total cost under 100 dollars one time. The screens are old tablets acquired for 10 per brand new out of the box. The 32G media cards are the most expensive part of the network, they are in a few endpoints that back up the video, the logs, the image of all the other media cards and configuration.

I use the cloud for my job, I use the cloud for my public self. I do not use the cloud for my private self. The video of me picking my nose and the cat knocking over stuff isnt something anyone wants, but I classified it long ago as something that does not leave my internet gateway.

As far as power meters, dont buy smart devices with grid attached standards on the box. Buy quality and repairable stuff today. Stay out of the state of CA. Vote for sane people who do stuff in their own self interests and not some green lobby.


33 posted on 09/16/2023 5:04:26 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: Gen.Blather

“The logged data can be used to collect or control time of use or rate of use data that can be used for water or energy usage profiling, time of use billing”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_meter

They can profile you, and charge you more at certain times to control your behavior.


34 posted on 09/16/2023 5:05:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The News” is a fake narrative promulgated by the Deep State Uniparty to control you and enrich them)
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To: Vaquero

my truck has a cd player but i dont own any cds

what decade am i in?


35 posted on 09/16/2023 5:12:04 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: pepsionice
On cars, most all of the premium vehicles now made...have a cellphone ‘relationship’ with the car and data passes along. No cellphone? No data passing along.

In 2018 I bought a new Toyota Camry, not a premium car. Toyota does the oil changes for the first 25,000 miles. I bought the car as my commuter vehicle so I put a LOT of miles on a vehicle, about three times the normal rate of most drivers which I think is about 12,000 miles a year. The first oil change should come at about the 10 month point logically since their oil change interval is 10,000 miles. Because I drive so much I hit 10,000 miles at about the 3 month point instead of 10 month. When my car hit about 8,000 miles, slightly after owning it two months, I started getting emails from Toyota telling me it was time to schedule my service. The car hadn't been anywhere near a Toyota dealership since I drove it off the lot but somehow they knew the car was approaching 10,000 miles. They couldn't have been going off of time because if I was an average driver I wouldn't need it for a least another six months, yet they knew. I don't have any kind of cell phone data plan for the car, it's just a basic Camry that doesn't even have satellite radio. I do use the bluetooth to connect my Iphone to the car so I can use the hands free talk feature.

The point of all this long winded post is that even without the premium avionics options, I think the new cars are designed to relay data back to the manufacturer somehow. I don't know if it's done using my cellphone when I connect it to the bluetooth or if it's got it's own cellular modem that's transmitting data. Perhaps it's bluetoothing data to some data collection receivers when you pass them on the highway, I don't know. I am pretty certain thought that newer cars are constantly downlinking data to the manufacturers which means the government has access to it also anytime they want it.

36 posted on 09/16/2023 5:12:56 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: pepsionice

Correct, having reliable electric power 24/7, independent of weather conditions is a luxury they no longer want us to have as it means having energy storage facilities that are so large (and expensive) as to be unimaginable...so they need control our consumption.

By the way, if you ever wondered why Leftists have done a 180 degree flip and are now the biggest warmongers on the planet, it’s because their plans for this consumption-controlled New Electrical Order cannot work until Russia and China are brought into it, and neither country is particularly interested in doing that...hence it’s time for ‘regime change’ in those countries, and if it means World War 3 to get there, then so be it - at least from their viewpoint.


37 posted on 09/16/2023 5:15:16 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: mewzilla

650M (CD) - 200 songs vs 32G (PHONE) 10,000 songs

The customer provides the media and it cheaper on both sides for everyone.

A 10 year old bluetooth stereo in a 20-70 year old car, just keeping a modern tablet in the car is the best infotainment system. MAPS, SONGS, WEATHER, NEWS, WEBEX, TEAMS, PHONE CALLS all with either cellular service on the tablet or your phones hot spot. Works for airplanes as a private pilot also. You end up spending a few bucks on mounts that go from car to plane and back again.

That remote ID for drone is bluetooth based was a bad move. First it is ferriable band, second it has the range in suburbia of 50 feet when around a crowd of cell phones.


38 posted on 09/16/2023 5:23:02 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: browniexyz

“A car equipped with a transponder crosses a bridge over the Ohio River every now and then, and for some reason, I get a bill for the bridge toll. I can’t figure out why the bridge thinks it’s me in that car — maybe an old license plate because the bill goes to my old address....it’s a weird modern problem not sure how to solve or whether to bother....”

In Texas, at least, we had the same problem. Seems their automated tolling system assumed all plates were from Texas, at least if Texas had a match to the plate number. So it was cheaper to send the bill to an innocent Texan than to try to identify the correct state and go after the proper vehicle.

So I called for 3 separate bills for an out-of-state vehicle with the same plate numbers - I called them, they were very nice and reversed the charges after looking at their photo. For the 4th bill, I ignored it (knowing it was false). My plan worked - to go to then next step, enforcement, they likely had a human review the case before sending me a nasty letter, as I never heard back. At that point, they may have also flagged all future bills with my plate for human review, as I never got anymore of them.


39 posted on 09/16/2023 5:26:13 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: GaryCrow

“I don’t have any kind of cell phone data plan for the car...”

Oh, you do, as you seem to now understand. But since you haven’t paid, you don’t have rights to use that system, just Toyota and whoever else they allow to access your vehicle.


40 posted on 09/16/2023 5:32:30 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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