MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What? (IMAGES from video and video links)

YOUTUBE.com ^ | 8/28/2023 | Hawaii Real Estate

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: The first video was recorded outside the restricted zone. The video features a car on the shoulder of the road supposedly burned from the nearby grassfire (car is essentially melted except for steel frame - steering colum, steering wheel, glass etc.) with most of the terrain surrounding it intact. I put several still images taken from the video below for those who don't want to watch it.

Just a few notes:
Police forbid access to the fire locations and tell people outside the restricted zone not to take pictures (from roadside - facing into the zone).

Near the bottom of this post I put the link to a second video taken inside the restricted zone. That video features 2 cars, essentially melted except for steel framing. They are surrounded by untouched property, houses etc.

(Note that the second video is linked near the bottom and images from the 2018 Paradise fire have been liked at the end of this post)

Internet searches indicate average temperature of grass fires ranges from around 300 degrees farenheit up to 700 degres Farenheit(F).

Automotive glass melts at 2552°F to 2912°F

Steel melts at 2700°F

Aluminum melts at  1220°F

Cast Iron melts at  2200°F

IMAGES FROM Lahaina fire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0

https://i.imgur.com/6vHt8ZG.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/iPMu3g2.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Nqp21B0.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/KNXi33m.jpeg

photographed in through driver's window - steering column and wheel is gone

https://i.imgur.com/0mjmt80.png

https://i.imgur.com/vuHXxc8.png

crumbling aluminum roof rack

https://i.imgur.com/gYrsW2m.png

https://i.imgur.com/dzNXwjF.png

looking at the terrain in front of the car

https://i.imgur.com/ecbv8Bd.png

in front to the right

https://i.imgur.com/gJydu4m.jpeg

the view behind the car

https://i.imgur.com/vH5UkBQ.png

standing off center to the passenger side of the  front of the car and facing the highway a little toward the drivers side

https://i.imgur.com/PZI1ZDd.jpeg

standing off center to the drivers side of the car  of the car and facine back and to the passenger side of the car

https://i.imgur.com/Iyd1qDT.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Rf32uZ6.jpeg

looking in through passenger window

https://i.imgur.com/4OC2WBs.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/tn2NEaN.jpeg

windshield melted in the center of the pic

https://i.imgur.com/ymZP4Ot.jpeg

Back of vehicle - I think I see a little circular pile of wires on the ground where the spare tire burned off the bracket

https://i.imgur.com/R6HSbpT.jpeg

puddle of metal beneath the center back bumper

https://i.imgur.com/gcKAGRO.jpeg

closer to the puddle of metal behind the car

https://i.imgur.com/atCKdcF.png

behind the car on the ground, looks like wires from the spare and molten metal from the wheel

https://i.imgur.com/j8SRr68.jpeg

cell phone?

https://i.imgur.com/GfIsUlk.jpeg

photograph facing the drivers side - shows it's an SUV

https://i.imgur.com/BpEmRqU.jpeg

looking from the passenger side over the hood of the car to the front right

https://i.imgur.com/XEfYYvw.png

terrain behind the car again

https://i.imgur.com/k2qSL6e.png

facing the passenger side of almost the whole car

https://i.imgur.com/uPVVJuT.jpeg

front bumper from drivers side

https://i.imgur.com/yuMnheN.png

front bumper from passenger side

https://i.imgur.com/wFJaKBy.jpeg

engine

https://i.imgur.com/sM3b9cF.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/mDir3Mk.jpeg

Above images are from the first 8 minutes of the recording.

The police arrived at around the 23 minute mark and told the men to leave, talked with the men a little, and then escorting the walking men back to their cars by following in a patrol car. Two more patrol cars can be seen arriving in the background. At the 34 minute mark, the person featured in the video closes the recording with a prayer that the information reaches the public. He encourages people to help by donating to those impacted.

Video taken by the same YOUTUBE account of fire damage inside the restricted zone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mppuqs7YF0

~~~~~~~~2018 November  Paradise fire Images below~~~~~~~~~~

LINKS ONLY DUE TO COPYRIGHT

Forest fire burned houses but not trees.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/01/business/01Utility/01Utility-superJumbo-v2.jpg

Trees and telephone poles intact but fire melted all but steel frame of car
https://i.imgur.com/iPTPBzE.png

Piles of ashes on the cement foundations of houses remains, but the trees surrounding them are intact.

https://i.imgur.com/A1rtbD8.png

This might be a better example:
https://i.imgur.com/u5TYk87.png

A forest fire when only the buildings burn
https://i.imgur.com/arO8VVk.png

Google Images search results for paradise fire here:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=561276914&q=paradise+california+fire&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUnO-lkoSBAxVklmoFHSurDk0Q0pQJegQIEBAB&biw=1920&bih=955&dpr=1#imgrc=PC1vVi_xoK_dJM

 

[Tunehead54]

Bump!

[Tunehead54]

Bump!

[Mr.Unique]

Fire is colorblind you know.

Of course.

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What? (IMAGES from video and video links), absalom01 wrote:

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What? (IMAGES from video and video links), ransomnote wrote:

Translation: "How DARE you question the official narrative!!! Especially at a time when our government is disregarding the needs of Hawaii in favor of the Ukrainians!Next time 'officials' tell you something, BELIEVE IT! Guards! Take her away!!!"

Maybe the burning adrenochromes melted the car?

ransomnote: Maybe you couldn't think of anything substantive so you just start making trash up?

The focus can't be on the crimial incompetence of the Democrat platation that has completely controlled all aspects of Hawaiin government for decades.  Nope, it's all about how the fire was "unnatural", and how "fire has never before melted a car", despite the evidence of our own eyes (I still have a small droplet of melted glass from my neighbor's car that was reduced to a condition similar to this car in a California wildfire in 1994).

ransomnote: Still distorting I see. I think there's a land grab going on and it's likely China as they have purchased a lot of land in California and are trying to hide it. Or maybe it's just the Bill Gates class. It may be a combination of arson and technology. Something is wrong with the whole picture -a fire starts and the schools send the children home knowing their parents aren't there, officials put detour signs up preventing people from leaving. It likely goes beyond incompetence and I' dare to, you know, ask questions.

Here's a thought experiment: if the Ransomnote account was simply a deep-state CIA directed bot spreading confusion and nonsense in what way would its postings differ from the current example?  If the aim was to deflect blame from the Democrat machine, what different material would it be posting?

ransomnote: I could say the same of you.

That's crazy conspiracy talk though.  It's much more likely that the account is sincere, and merely delusional, but it's impossible to tell the difference just by reading the record.

ransomnote: So you can't disagree with someone, you have to follow them out of the conversation smearing them as delusional or a deep-state CIA bot - and you can't see the irony in that paranoid suggestion.

 

[Georgia Girl 2]

Grass fires pushed by 80 mph winds don’t burn some things and leave others. They burn everything in their path. They don’t leave blue fabric awnings or any awnings untouched. They don’t just decide to skip over a group of trees but burn all others. That’s not the way it works.

[chuck allen]

You need rest, and an education on fires and trees and why some burn and some don’t.(hint: I provided that up thread)

You need to show me pictures of the unburnt blue awnings and cars of Lahaina because I can’t find them. Of all the pictures I’ve looked at there is one blue car that is only partially burned sitting amongst other burned out cars. I’ve seen multiple aerial photos of before and after fire pics and there are most definitely blue buildings burned to a crisp, awnings and all. I guess the D.E.W. wasn’t directed properly at those buildings or that car.

If these thoughts keep up, seek help.

And Oprah has a grey roof, miles from the fire scene.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Well I’ve seen multiple photos and videos so maybe you need to do a little more research. Many experts are questioning this fire. We’re not living in normal times.

[chuck allen]

You made the claim, show me.

Here, I’ll ease your worried mind.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/trees-survive-fires-buildings-dont-explained/507-a3fac229-1fe1-4677-9976-392c72b15617#:~:text=One%20of%20which%20is%20how,Dr.

[Georgia Girl 2]

You seem to be the one that’s so worked up about it. I say it was DEWs based on what I’ve seen and heard. You disagree. So be it. 😉

[Fury]

Re: 108 - Hey, no fair providing useful info to this thread!

[Tijeras_Slim]

I’ve seen similar pictures form some of the wildfires we’ve had in New Mexico.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Although I mostly did radiation effects work, we also had directed energy work. It’s a catchall acronym that covers lots of different things. It covers, lasers, high power microwaves, etc… Basically any part of the electromagnetic spectum that can be weaponized.

[marktwain]

Even a flame thrower wouldn't melt a car like this (details upthread) and the heat would have to be sustained long enough to melt glass. More than one flame thrower would be needed as the damage is relatively uniform all over the body of the car.

Ransomnote, you are getting bad information about this. Strong winds intensify the heat in a fire, because they supply lots of oxygen very quickly. I had a campfire once, fueled only with wood. There was a strong wind blowing, and it intensified the fire so much, it melted an aluminum pipe. That was just a small campfire with a strong wind.

[chuck allen]

Yeah and 109 proves my theory… 🥜 🔩 🌰

[Fury]

With that poster, there are almost no references provided. Just unsourced tidbits. That makes it easier to post conspiracy theory claims (when you provide few if any sources).

[minnesota_bound]

I read a story that happened near where I live a few miles from West Hills, Calif (San Fernando valley) where a firetruck was on a dirt road fighting a fire when a fire swept up from below and went over them in seconds. The windows were blown out and one fireman on the other side of the truck facing away was burned. I personally saw a brush fire near Chatsworth Park North where smoke was going up a ravine from the bottom and instantly turned to fire as it got to the top.

Google: car fire melts
Google: brush fire embers
Google: fire tornado
Google: forest fire temperature degrees
Answer: temperatures of 1472° F to 2192° F

Click on Images. Many photos. Here is one in Tennessee
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1858946/tennessee-forest-fires-liquefy-aluminum-rims/

Merrillville - note the buildings and other cars untouched by the fire.
https://regionnewssource.org/merrillville-car-fires-overnight/

Flying embers
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/10/photos-embers-fly-wind-driven-california-wildfires/601075/

fire tornado
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/firefighters-capture-video-of-blazing-cyclone-called-a-firenado-in-the-u-k/

[ransomnote]

We have to agree to disagree.

[chuck allen]

It seems that they are members of that club Rush Limbaugh used to talk about, the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society. I’ve got no other explanation. 🤷

[chuck allen]

In the face of irrefutable proof? You just disagree? Unbelievable!

You’re a nut and ruining this site. You make us all look bad, and your nonsense should not be tolerated here anymore.

[ransomnote]

*holds wrists up so you can cuff’em*