Posted on 08/09/2023 8:18:29 PM PDT by algore
There was a lot of really greatness in music before the 90s and I just give this as an example, but could easily give you a hundred more.
but I just don't see it today, and I don't know why.
Am I just missing all of today's talent somehow or has something changed?
And so does any rocker who abuses drugs and alcohol. They are all self-destructive. It’s a miracle that any survives. Keith Richards I’m looking at you. David Crosby wrecked his liver and quickly got a transplant while other more deserving recipients had to get in line. He did it to himself and they should have let him go down the tubes.
You are so right.
I live just outside of a small town in the Blue Ridge mountains of western North Carolina. “Dissonance, mayhem and garbage” is rarely heard here and the music we love reflects the sanity, sense of community, mild climate, natural beauty, abundance of out-door recreation, and a slower pace of life that fosters peace and tranquility.
Music is an integral part of our lives and heritage of both young and old. Ringing with the sounds of the fiddle, banjo, guitar, mandolin, the occasional cajon and Bodhran drums, and even mountain dulcimer; which can be heard everywhere from front porches to community jams, and festival stages. Old-time, Bluegrass, and Gospel is in our hearts and souls.
Our friend and neighbor, Josh Carter and his band “Pretty Little Goat” did a documentary in 2022 that beautifully sums up what music up here in our hills means today. ……. https://youtu.be/1WUC9m7Op1Q
A FEW MORE OF MY FAVORITES:
Local neighbor’s Band, Carolina Blues’ “Too Wet To Plow”: https://youtu.be/EQxwysVq1dMSteve Martin has a get-away home up here and we love it when he plays with our own Steep Canyon Rangers: https://youtu.be/7prhBlma3Ys
Good friend, neighbor, and fellow beekeeper, Bennett Sullivan’s “Briar Patch” from his “Green Song” album: https://youtu.be/97s7XYoF5sk
Balsam Range’s “I Hear the Mountains Calling To Me”: https://youtu.be/gFpyenV1qjI
Hauntingly beautiful sound of Jay Ungar’s “The Lover’s Waltz” : https://youtu.be/jRyMH_4PO3Y
Carolina Chocolate Drops’ “Cornbread And Butterbeans”: https://youtu.be/UbxMDsJPXKw
Country Music sounds of Alan Jackson’s “Blue Ridge Mountain Song”: https://youtu.be/5s-k8Q_40cA
Yeah that wad a great film...very eye opening. They didn’t seem to want to say it but the Beatles probably were the the death of that model.
Original Midnight Special broadcasts now being posted on youtube!!
There’s plenty of talent out there now. You just gotta find it. Rock is on longer the primary seller, and there’s very little in new rock radio. But there’s still great rock and roll being made.
Porcupine Tree
Rival Sons
Monster Magnet
Muse
Blood Ceremony
and more and more and more
I’m going to see them, Leonid and Friends, next week based on Freeper’s appreciations and recommendations. So, yes, they’re still gigging.
Hand grenade time ...
Tarja has the better voice, with greater range. But she's somehting of an ice-princess.
Floor has the more powerful voice, and has more fun using it.
Can I be a fan of both, or is that heresy?
yeah barely,, ima big fan of the 3-man bands and before the synthesizer & keyboards took over ..
I know. I came across one on YouTube featuring Olivia Newton-John. She was smoking hot.
FWIW, the Beatles were basically studio musicians. They had their own studio and all the time in the world to produce their own songs. They still used studio musicians. Almost all records (except live recordings) have some added studio musician bells and whistles.
Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones played on a lot of records as a studio musicians before Led Zeppelin.
There was a lot that went into that model. Keep in mind that the 60s LA music scene was ruled by singers (who sometimes wrote) who often didn’t even have a band. They used the studio guys in the studio and hired road warriors for the road. And that’s not just rock and roll. “Adult” music like Sinatra and Deano were doing it long before rock and roll. Even when the LA groups were an actual band, partly because the studio heads were right there, that model continued. And that model didn’t “die” until after the Beatles broke up.
In other parts of the world it was very different. In a lot of places there just were not the cadre of hired guns bouncing from studio to studio. England especially just didn’t have that model. Part of the issue there was the big dogs didn’t even care enough about rock and roll to do anything that would make recording more expensive (remember the BBC basically wouldn’t even play rock and roll until the early 70s, thus the huge pirate radio boom over there). They just slapped a band into the studio for 2 weeks and what happened happened. Beatles, Stones, Kinks, these guys were recorded in studio that didn’t even know how to hire temps.
Chicago was kind of similar to England. As black blues guys moved north, they were just set loose in the studio.
Detroit was was fast and loose too. Until Spector really started formalizing the Motown Sound. He built a his cadre.
The New York scene was kind of similar to LA, because of the Brill Building, and of course the cadres of studio pros making pre-rock music. But really outside NYC and LA that model didn’t really exist. Which is why when you listen to music from that era there are these distinct sounds from LA, NYC and eventually Detroit. But once you got away from those things got really random. There’s no “London sound”.
By the mid 80s horns we’re going away. Bands did more ballads.
Chicago, Earth Wind and Fire, Doobie Brothers, etc...horns just faded away.
There were lots of horns in most music, when I was coming along.
Oh yeah. And that blonde that was on Johnny Carson a lot doing skits.
And the bands performed for real. Years later you could tell it was lip synching.
True enough...I think the larger point was that they were a band that did their own studio work and kind of make it "ok" not to use nameless, faceless, studio musicians.
They didn’t write until the end.
“I’m a Believer “ was written by Neil Diamond.
Didn’t know that either.
Didn’t need many musicians for Bread.
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