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1 posted on 08/09/2023 1:32:14 PM PDT by devane617
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so...should the gop promote choice???


2 posted on 08/09/2023 1:34:23 PM PDT by patriot torch
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There is not doubt that this issue has cost us a number of House and Senate seats. It brings out the neurotic young female vote.


3 posted on 08/09/2023 1:34:42 PM PDT by bort
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It seems to be a very valid theory.


4 posted on 08/09/2023 1:35:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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So you think Joe actually won in 2020?


6 posted on 08/09/2023 1:35:49 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I will not vote for any politician who supports abortion.

Pander to the baby-killers, lose my vote.

Simple as that.


7 posted on 08/09/2023 1:36:46 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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interesting post. suspect at best, since desantis donor class has demanded a “moderation” of set campaign stand on decisive issues.

so we should now chase the democrat party to the left?


12 posted on 08/09/2023 1:38:35 PM PDT by patriot torch
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The New Millennial Amerikans are natural born baby killers.


13 posted on 08/09/2023 1:38:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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Same thing that kept Trump from being reelected in 2020: cheating.


14 posted on 08/09/2023 1:39:00 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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It’s a delicate issue that needs to be handled properly and with a strategy. Right now the GOP is failing/flailing.


15 posted on 08/09/2023 1:39:17 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I disagree.

In 2020, GOP forced the abortion issue, and so it was on the ballot in referendums in many states and it brought out the vote. We lost the senate, but we retained the house, thanks in large part to Trump’s relentless campaigning,

I don’t think abortion issues will be on many state referendums this time. I might be wrong, because if it is, then you’ll be right.

I think just about everyone is ok with this being determined at the state level.

It would. be political suicide, and maybe this is your point, to make abortion a federal issue again.


16 posted on 08/09/2023 1:40:13 PM PDT by nikos1121
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If I happen to notice that the conservative movement has lost every major social issue over the past 30-40 years will people get angry at me?


17 posted on 08/09/2023 1:40:54 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Abortion is at the States.

That is reasonable, from a Federal level. We could do a Constitutional Amendment, but that is very long range.


22 posted on 08/09/2023 1:43:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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why dont you save everybody the time and just posts you are for abortion. calling a table discussion hinting that its “The Best Way” to get the Right back in the big chair makes you appear to be a shallow, one issue voter.

most people, unless they are trying to suck up to their partners, dont care about abortion because 80% of normal people dont need them!!


23 posted on 08/09/2023 1:43:31 PM PDT by sit-rep
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I think it will be one of the things.

It is possible to support overturning Roe AND trusting the states will promote the will of their citizens.

But there are many who will die on this hill. And they will take the rest of the party with it.

Trump alone would motivate the Dems to action. Local debates on abortion will motivate more.


24 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Trump is the one thing that will prevent Trump from getting back into office.


27 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:32 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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So every two years, we have an election about abortion?


29 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:21 PM PDT by Luke21
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Put abortion on the middle burner for the time being, and stress keeping the First Amendment pure. First things first.

If “they” succeed in squelching the Gospel message — and that is occurring every day — there’s a lower chance people’s hearts will be changed. Abortion (for or against) is a heart thing.


30 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:21 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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Rush repeatedly and vehemently disagreed with the idea of Republicans dropping a pro-life stance or just being quiet about it under the guise that doing so would help win elections.

IMHO what the GOP should always do is put it back on the Dims. Make the Dims state why they support "abortion" even after birth. The GOP should articulate the brutal steps of a partial-birth abortion and make the Dims state why they support a procedure that involves having to hold the baby's arms and legs still and puncture his skull to literally suck his brains out. The GOP should ask the Dims if it would be okay to do those kind of things to a puppy dog --- if not then why is it okay to do it to a baby? The GOP should state over and over and over that at one time the Dims said blacks too were less than human beings, just property, and if history shows the Dims were wrong about that then the Dims are wrong about a baby even with arms and legs already developed being "just a clump of cells".

That way the pro-life position isn't won over most people is because it's never described in detail for the gruesome barbaric thing that it really is.

32 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:22 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Trump’s recently stated position is effectively “Safe, Legal, & Rare” — rape, mother’s life, etc

The Rats got out the young female vote in Kansas. They’ll repeat that and ballot harvesting in 2024.


37 posted on 08/09/2023 1:47:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Follow God or follow the world. He decides on the blessings for obedience, the world doesn’t.


38 posted on 08/09/2023 1:48:03 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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