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Meet a student-loan borrower with $101,000 in debt who doesn't have 'any hope' with Biden's new plan for loan forgiveness: 'I'm never going to be able to pay it down'
Business Insider ^ | 7/09/23 | Ayelet Sheffey

Posted on 07/09/2023 9:20:37 AM PDT by Libloather

Jarrett, 38, isn't feeling too hot about President Joe Biden's new plan for student-loan forgiveness.

After graduating with an undergraduate degree during the 2008 financial crisis, Jarrett - who requested his last name be withheld for privacy but whose identity is known to Insider - was laid off from his job. He decided pursuing an MBA would make him more appealing to employers, so that's what he did, and he graduated with his advanced degree in 2012 with the help of student loans.

But Jarrett said the degree didn't pay off as intended. For years after graduating, he struggled to find steady employment and placed his initial student-loan balance of about $60,000 on forbearance. During that period when he was not making payments, interest was still growing, and it surged his balance to about $80,000.

Now, Jarrett's student-debt load is just over $101,000, according to documents reviewed by Insider - and he doesn't see himself ever paying it off.

"I'm never going to be able to pay it down," Jarrett told Insider. "The interest rates on them have put me in a trap where it is literally impossible to do. The interest is accumulating faster than I can put any money down on it, making it impossible to get out from under if you're not being compensated at a much higher level than I've had."

Jarrett now works in the energy industry and earns five figures. He said he felt "fortunate" to be able to live reasonably on his salary during the student-loan payment pause - but that could all change soon when payments resume in October without Biden's broad student-loan forgiveness. At the end of June, the Supreme Court struck down the president's plan to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for federal borrowers...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Education; History
KEYWORDS: brandon; debt; education; loan; student
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To: Libloather
Let me check.
MBA Courses
Finance teaches compound interest, future value, present value and Excel spreadsheets to calculate any of them.
Statistics requires strong math abilities to pass
Calculus is even more strenuous
Other advanced money topics are included in Operations Management and IT courses.

There is no way this guy could graduate from an MBA program without knowing how to calculate compound interest and loan repayment schedules. Either this is complete BS or he's just a lazy SOB who won't work.

141 posted on 07/09/2023 1:25:19 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: VTenigma

I’m with ya, but technically he did borrow that money. He placed his loan in forbearance which in reality is an extension to his loan. anyone his age claiming ignorance he didn’t understand the terms of the loan is a moron. Placing the loan in forbearance and then paying only the minimum is allowing the lending institution to essentially loan more money as the interest accrues. Call it whatever you want but bad decisions have bad consequences, thems the breaks.


142 posted on 07/09/2023 1:33:58 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Libloather

Sounds like he way over estimated his ability to land a $100,000+ a year job and keep it.


143 posted on 07/09/2023 1:39:38 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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To: Libloather

He obtained an MBA but doesn’t understand that a loan needs to be repaid. I have no sympathy for this man.


144 posted on 07/09/2023 1:52:11 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Libloather

Sad. Numerous young people who lack prudence and thriftiness are encouraged to go to college. As a result, numerous young people are stuck with huge loans. Parents need to stop encouraging college. Young people need to learn the joy of having credit. Ignoring huge loans is like having a rock in one’s shoe. Half of college graduates wish they could return their degree for a full refund. Growing up with a mother and a father and weekly church attendance solves a lot of problems.


145 posted on 07/09/2023 1:56:33 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: meyer
I mean, how much does it cost for a “professor” to rattle off factoids for maybe 4 hours a day? How much does maintenance on the classroom cost? Heat? Lighting? I’d say nowhere near what they charge students. Where’s all that money going?

They have to pay all the DEI staff as well as all the deans in the schools of gender and ethnic studies.

146 posted on 07/09/2023 1:57:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Your math is deficient: six figures starts at 100,000, five figures ends at 99,999.


147 posted on 07/09/2023 1:59:35 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Libloather
"What ever you do, don't borrow money" Said My Dad on many occasions.

I have avoided it as much as possible and my life (Debt free) is better for it.

148 posted on 07/09/2023 2:07:42 PM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat FARMED FISH.)
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To: Libloather
Interesting posting. Thanks.

I looked into getting a MBA several decades ago. I ended up not doing this. For me, it was a dollars and cents issue. I had economic and time boundaries not to be exceeded and my spouse was a partner in the decision. Everyone will be in a different boat but it's damn important to accurately define boundaries before leaping into any post graduate degree.

For anyone considering a MBA and you're not a business degree major with your bachelor degree, it gets a bit more complicated $$$ and time wise. I was looking at two options.

Option 1 was very traditional and through my alma mater. Added to the MBA courses were several bachelor level business college classes. Lowest $$$ outlay but a semester or two longer duration because of those pesky prerequisites.

Option 2 was via a familiar to me private college. Higher tuition but fewer hours thus a lower time investment. Two big pluses this route. First is that their MBA program was structured to cater to persons like me with non business degrees. Fewer semesters and classes required. A bonus was the availability of a semester abroad in Singapore via a coordination arrangement between the two university.

Ultimately I decided against the MBA path. The traditional path of option 1 was way too expensive. Dropped off the option list fast.

The option 2 path came real close to being implemented. Academically, many of the classes were taught by presidents of regional companies. Real world vs. academics, oh yeah. It crashed for me though on $$$. Tuition was several times more than the state university. Ouch. To offset this, I was offered a job to teach the chemistry labs for the nursing program. Ultimately we were not able to close the gap on $$$. I was paying some and they were paying me some - The gap was too large for my boundary.

149 posted on 07/09/2023 2:10:24 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Libloather

They don’t mention what his degree is..
Perhaps basket weaving?
Maybe wymen’s studies?C’mon man, tell me the whole story


150 posted on 07/09/2023 2:38:19 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: stanne

Look at Fauxcahontas. One class and she’s getting paid a million bucks.


151 posted on 07/09/2023 2:43:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A man in NM is killed over a movie theater seat. The azhos in The Swamp think guns are the problem. )
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To: NorthMountain

Apologies - I painted with way too wide a brush.

I’ve been to 3 different schools, all part time, to get my degree. The community college was decent, though it did have a couple of those big room classes with 70-100 students. Cleveland State was mostly a horrible experience, with the huge auditorium classroom for Chemistry, and an instructor that barely spoke English.

Mixed bag on a couple of other classes. Calc 1 was great, great instructor, calc 2 was the opposite with an unapproachable professor that was always the last to enter the room and the first to leave. Then there was the special “group IV” required class that tried to teach the “urban experience” and blame the banks for the city of Cleveland not paying back the money it borrowed and therefore going bankrupt.

I switched to Baldwin Wallace for my last year and a half. All night and weekend school. Mostly good instructors and professors, with a couple of exceptions. Yes, even at a school connected with the Methodist Church, you had a couple of “those” instructors that would give you bad grades if you didn’t agree with their views on abortion and such.

Economics, accounting, and business law were my favorites, though I really wanted to do the engineering path. But I was already in a decent paying job and could not get the classes I needed to match my work schedule. So I did what I could.

Oddly, my degree has absolutely nothing to do with my line of work. But it gave me a marketable piece of paper to go with my real world experience and that was helpful when I decided to relocate 20+ years ago.


152 posted on 07/09/2023 3:09:57 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

If the fed ever gets its boot off our necks, your kids will be prosperous beyond your wildest dreams.


153 posted on 07/09/2023 3:12:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I made 6 figures in my first job, washing cars during and right after High School. Of course, 2 of those figures were to the right of the decimal point. :)


154 posted on 07/09/2023 3:13:06 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: Libloather

You signed on the line, promising to pay it back.

It sucks, but here we are.


155 posted on 07/09/2023 3:15:40 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: Jim Noble

I agree.

Eliminate student loans and watch the cost of college drop like an anvil.


156 posted on 07/09/2023 3:16:37 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: Skooz

I mean, a student loan is basically an unsecured loan. No collateral. A home loan, they can repo the house. Ditto for a car loan. This is more like a credit card loan and the interest rates should reflect that. But they don’t.


157 posted on 07/09/2023 3:22:05 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You know it. And you know not only does she depend on a TA that tge univ pays for, but poc-tas does not even have any parameters for attendance that tge school puts on her or enforces

This sham really needs out- age

It’s like the military in the Carter years. A total free for all.


158 posted on 07/09/2023 3:27:31 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Libloather

No hope for a dope.
But the whole article reads like a puff piece for loan forgiveness. No one can be that stupid....er, maybe they can...


159 posted on 07/09/2023 4:30:04 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: meyer

Probably big money back then. During HS, I was a scorekeeper at the local bowling center. Kept me in pinball money.


160 posted on 07/09/2023 4:55:30 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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