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Hunt for Titan submersible 'still a search and rescue' as hours of oxygen left inside vessel
The Journal (Ireland) ^ | June 22, 2023, 7 minutes ago | Staff

Posted on 06/22/2023 6:11:45 AM PDT by Red Badger

As of yesterday afternoon it was thought just 20 hours of oxygen remained in the vessel.

LAST UPDATE | 7 minutes ago

It is estimated that the Titan will run out of oxygen within hours Experts are divided over the source of noises heard by ships in the search area Additional resources, including a vessel with the ability to dive to the depth of the Titanic wreck, have arrived at the scene today ADDITIONAL HELP IS being sent to find the missing Titan submersible with just hours of oxygen thought to be left for those onboard.

The vessel lost communication with tour operators on Sunday while about 435 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland, during a voyage to the Titanic shipwreck off the coast of Canada.

As of yesterday afternoon it was thought just 20 hours of oxygen remained in the vessel, meaning it would have run out at some point this morning or early afternoon.

The chief coordinator of the mission to find the submersible said he remains focused on rescuing the five-member crew alive, as concerns grew that their oxygen had run out.

“We continue to find in particularly complex cases that people’s will to live really needs to be accounted for as well. And so we’re continuing to search and proceed with rescue efforts,” the US Coast Guard’s Rear Admiral John Mauger told NBC’s Today show.

“This is still an active search and rescue at this point. We’re using the equipment that we have on the bottom right now, the remote operated vehicles, to expand our search capability and then also to provide rescue capability as well.”

Mauger added that the operation was making the most of good conditions at sea.

Organizers of the multinational response – which includes US and Canadian military planes, coast guard ships and teleguided robots – are focusing their efforts in the North Atlantic close to the underwater noises detected by sonar.

Earlier today, a French research ship equipped with an unmanned robot able to search deep underwater arrived near the wreck of the Titanic.

The French Research Institute for Exploitation of the Sea confirmed that the Atalante ship had begun operations at the scene in the North Atlantic.

It carries the Victor 6000, a remotely operated underwater vehicle (ROV) capable of descending to a depth of 6,000 metres.

The Titanic wreck sits at a depth of 3,800 metres, making it a particularly difficult area to search – or reach for a potential rescue mission.

The Atalante has begun using its multibeam echo sounder to create a map of the nearby seabed to “allow Victor 6000 to have a more efficient dive,” a spokesperson told AFP.

But the echo sounder, which bounces acoustic waves off the seafloor to work out its depth, would not be able to detect the submersible itself.

The submersible, a 6.7m (22ft)-long OceanGate Expeditions vessel, which has British billionaire adventurer Hamish Harding on board, reportedly had a 96-hour oxygen supply in case of emergencies.

Also in the undersea craft are UK-based businessman Shahzada Dawood, his son Suleman Dawood, and OceanGate’s chief executive and founder Stockton Rush, reportedly with French submersible pilot Paul-Henri Nargeolet.

Source of noises detected The US Coast Guard has been leading an international rescue effort which was stepped up after underwater noises were heard on Tuesday and again yesterday, although experts have been unable to determine the cause of the sound.

Former US Navy submarine commander, David Marquet, told the BBC the noises may not be coming from the submersible.

“I don’t think the noise is them, it could just be natural sounds,” he said.

“We’re hearing noises and more ships are coming into the area, and then we’re hearing more noises, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.”

However, deep-sea explorer Dr David Gallo believes the noises are a cause for optimism but believes it will “take hours” to rescue the submersible once it’s found.

He told Good Morning Britain: “Maybe two days ago my hope was sliding downward rapidly, but then these noises appeared and there seems to be very credible sources there, credible and repeatable.”

“In this case, the noises are repetitive, every half hour I believe.”

“Three different aircraft heard them in their sensors at the same time and it went on for two days-plus.

“It’s still going on apparently. There’s not a lot in the natural world we can think of that would do that every 30-minute cycle.

“We have to, at this point, assume that that’s the submarine and move quickly to that spot, locate it and get robots down there to verify that is where the submarine is.

“They’ve got to go fully ready as if that was the sub because it takes a while to locate it and get it up to the surface, it takes hours.”

Marquet said he remains hopeful rescuers will find the vessel with the introduction of the ROVs.

The area of the search has been expanded, with the surface search now about 10,000 square miles, and the sub-surface search about 2.5 miles deep.

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The coast guard had five surface vessels searching for Titan yesterday and they expected there to be 10 by today, captain Jamie Frederick said at a press conference yesterday.

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OceanGate Expeditions: Elon Musk, Macklemore and video game controllers He added: “What I can tell you is, we’re searching in the area where the noises were detected, and we’ll continue to do so and we hope that when we’re able to get additional ROVs (remotely operated vehicles) which will be there in the morning.

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“The intent will be to continue to search in those areas where the noises were detected, and if they’re continuing to be detected, and then put additional ROVs down on the last known position where the search was originally taking place.”

Asked whether the mission was changing to become a recovery search, he said:

“This is a search-and-rescue mission 100%, we are smack dab in the middle of search and rescue and will continue to put every available asset that we have in an effort to find the Titan and the crew members.”

Titan is believed to be about 900 miles east and 400 miles south of Newfoundland. It is not known how deep the vessel is, with the seabed being around 3,800m from the surface.

Safety questions Questions have been raised about the safety of the vessel after it emerged earlier in the week that a former employee of OceanGate had raised concerns over “safety and quality control issues regarding the Titan to OceanGate executive management”.

David Lochridge, OceanGate’s former director of marine operations, claimed in an August 2018 court document that he was wrongfully fired after flagging worries about the company’s alleged “refusal to conduct critical, non-destructive testing of the experimental design”.

Yesterday Kathleen Cosnett, a cousin of Harding, 58, told the Telegraph that OceanGate’s eight-hour delay before contacting the authorities was “far too long”.

She said: “It’s very frightening. It took so long for them to get going to rescue them, it’s far too long. I would have thought three hours would be the bare minimum.”

Sean Leet, co-founder and chairman of Horizon Maritime Services, which owns the Polar Prince mothership from which Titan launched, defended the company at a separate press conference on Wednesday.

He said: “OceanGate runs an extremely safe operation.

“Our full focus right now is getting that submersible located and getting those people brought back safely.”

Additional reporting by AFP


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: canada; implosion; oceangateexpeditions; titanic
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To: Psycho_Runner

That’s a possibility. But then shouldn’t they be searching the Titanic wreck, if they haven’t already? They already know where that is.


41 posted on 06/22/2023 8:16:57 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Red Badger

“Sean Leet, co-founder and chairman of Horizon Maritime Services, which owns the Polar Prince mothership from which Titan launched, defended the company at a separate press conference on Wednesday.

He said: “OceanGate runs an extremely safe operation.”

They are so out of business. Even IF they’re not found or held criminally liable, who will want to take their Titanic tour after this?


42 posted on 06/22/2023 8:19:10 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: lowbridge
He said: “OceanGate runs an extremely safe operation.”

Apparently not, dude............

43 posted on 06/22/2023 8:20:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

RIP


44 posted on 06/22/2023 8:22:09 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Red Badger

Not a problem. The CEO is there and has access to everyone’s waiver. Just go to clause ##.%.m.&* : “in event of disaster you agree to ‘suicide’.” It’s title is: “The HilaryHag clause.”

There, lots more hours left.


45 posted on 06/22/2023 8:23:28 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: TalBlack

That part is truly shocking. How much does a basic tracking beacon cost? Maybe $2,000 tops


46 posted on 06/22/2023 8:27:43 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: TermLimits4All
“We all died in a homemade submarine, homemade submarine, Homemade submarine.” Too soon?

Nah. Just good timing.

That stupid, arrogant, woke founder of this company deserved to go ace/deuce, and so did the egomaniacs that paid good money to get buried at "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" with Captain Nemo.

I feel no remorse for listening to the hand wringing coming from all of the 'New Christians' praying for love and a peaceful death for those idiots.

47 posted on 06/22/2023 9:02:18 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: desertsolitaire

Well if you strangle the ceo you’d have 20% more air.


48 posted on 06/22/2023 9:13:39 AM PDT by enraged
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To: enraged

If they did live long enough to have difficult conversations, someone might have volunteered to die in exchange for money from the billionaire promised in a check or an updated will. Wonder if anyone down there was a notary public?


49 posted on 06/22/2023 9:20:00 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: Red Badger

Pretty macabre, but dang interesting. Thanks.


50 posted on 06/22/2023 9:55:16 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: logi_cal869

What act or lack thereof constituted the “loss of contact?”

Iow, how was it known contact had been lost?


51 posted on 06/22/2023 10:31:13 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen; logi_cal869

Someone posted above how losing contact part-way down was a normal occurance for these dives for this vessel.

That seems like maintaining comms was another “safety is just pure waste” issue for Stockton.


52 posted on 06/22/2023 10:41:54 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen

Thermoclines mess up deep sea communications to and from the surface.


53 posted on 06/22/2023 10:47:35 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

Then....how is it that remote vehicles can be piloted?


54 posted on 06/22/2023 10:53:15 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen

Good question, although this wasn’t a remote piloted vehicle.


55 posted on 06/22/2023 11:00:47 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X

Perhaps the remotes can get intermittant communication through the interference.

Anyway, just wondering.


56 posted on 06/22/2023 11:51:28 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: citizen

I’d read that, too.

Woke meets high risk tourism.

i.e., Darwin Award. I’m sure that the lawsuits are already running off the printers...and it raises the bar significantly for the ‘space tourism’ nuts, including Musk.


57 posted on 06/22/2023 12:09:52 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: catnipman

Appears our thoughts were on point. Catastrophic hull failure due to a poorly engineered hull design.

Maybe should have consulted some well experienced 50+ year old white engineers who knew a thing or two, because they’ve seen a thing or two. And after crunching some serious numbers, they’ve questioned a thing or two and asked difficult questions to those in power.


58 posted on 06/23/2023 5:00:48 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: citizen
Then....how is it that remote vehicles can be piloted?

Dunno. I guess it comes down to who writes the articles. Titan was under the direct control of the CEO of the company. News articles suggests comms were often lost and the pilot on board had total control of the vessel...

59 posted on 06/25/2023 12:17:28 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: logi_cal869

To wit irony:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/sub-disaster-puts-spotlight-on-another-extreme-venture-space-tourism/ar-AA1cWxKl


60 posted on 06/25/2023 7:03:40 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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