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Got this email from Tom McClintock about his vote on Shiff.

Why I Oppose the Censure and Fine of Adam Schiff Congressman Tom McClintock - June 14, 2023 The Russia collusion hoax is the single dirtiest political trick in the history of American politics. We now know that it was entirely concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign and ruthlessly used by partisans in the FBI to affect the 2016 election and then to undermine the legitimately elected president of the United States.

Mr. Schiff’s active role in promoting this hoax is disgraceful and damning.

But that is not the question before us. The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate. We have gone much too far down this road and it is time we turned back.

1 posted on 06/14/2023 11:43:30 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: Pocketdoor

It isn’t Schiff’s speech that needs to be censured.

It’s his actions.


118 posted on 06/15/2023 6:02:18 AM PDT by Arlis
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The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate

Doesn't cut it, Tom.

"Speech" -- even "outlandish speech" -- is not the issue here, Tom ... and you damn well know that!

Lying over a series of months on a matter of national security, lies that directly and deliberately affected the ability of the President -- of the Executive Branch -- to excerise their responsibilitieis under the U.S. Constitution is the issue, Tom. And failing to condemn this behavior with even just a censure is immoral and it is a dereliction of your duty as a member of Congress, Tom.

I don't think even you believe your inane reasoning, Tom ... so how about being honest and explain why you just can't bring yourself to condemn the behavior of the disgraceful Schiff, Tom? Your behavior is completely out of character, Tom ... so what is it? Hmmmmmm?

119 posted on 06/15/2023 6:15:46 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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Jail him and throw away the key.

This is not free speech. It’s sedition.


121 posted on 06/15/2023 6:19:51 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Pocketdoor

While the RATs play hardball, the GOP plays nice.
When are these idiots going to learn?


123 posted on 06/15/2023 6:58:05 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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Translation: “Maybe if we’re nice to the rattlesnake, he won’t bite us.”


124 posted on 06/15/2023 7:00:33 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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But that is not the question before us. The question before us is whether a member of Congress should be censored and fined for speech, even outlandish speech, during the public policy debate.

They impeached Trump for saying protest and be peaceful, what's wrong with this rep, blind deaf and dumb?

125 posted on 06/15/2023 7:03:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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BS


126 posted on 06/15/2023 7:06:11 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Mods, if this is out of line let me know....
Mr. McClintok..
F(&K YOU, YOU IGNORANT, ARROGANT, EGOTISTICAL, NARCISSISTIC, SELF CENTERED PILE OF HUMAN $HIT!!!!
YOU JUST DON’T WANT YOUR PERSONAL CRIMES TO COME BACK AND BITE YOU IN THE A$$...
GO TO HELL


128 posted on 06/15/2023 7:19:44 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Usually, when a Republican politician is called out for their stupidity, they go onto the senate or house floor and make a fiery speech or propose a bill that they know will get voted down. Red meat for the masses.

A lot of voters will be (willingly) fooled and applaud the politician. It works every time.

I expect Tom McClintock to follow the playbook.


130 posted on 06/15/2023 7:25:26 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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"Because I talk a good game but when it comes time for the rubber to meet the road I fold like a cheap lawn chair.

I'm in the club, Schiff is in the club, you are not. So just shut up and send me money you upstart serfs!"

131 posted on 06/15/2023 7:33:06 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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I would accept McClintock’s take on the issue, IF he had offered an alternative bill to investigate Schiff for what he knew and didn’t know reqarding his comments during the Russian Hoax perpetrated by Billary, Inc.

His comments in Congress have to be judged by that. He is entitled to his opinion, and to speak it yes. But on such a grave matter as presented by the Russian Hoax, which required a special prosecutor and became part of an impeachment process, Schiff had no right to knowing lie in his comments in Congress and before the American people.

It needs to be understood how much the fact that it was a hoax had been revealed to him through connections and communications with those connections in the DOJ and the FBI.

I think Schiff lied, and knew he was actively advancing what he knew was a hoax. Without a DOJ investigation under a cleaned up DOJ, I don’t know how we learn the difference between Schiff being an ignorant tool or a lying fool.


132 posted on 06/15/2023 9:10:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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Disgusting. I wonder what they’ve got on Tom McClintock - sounds scared sh*tless, compromised or stupid beyond words.


133 posted on 06/15/2023 9:11:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (Black thugs, white liberal 'elites', and sexual weirdos are the democrat team against the rest of us)
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I Oppose the Censure and Fine of Adam Schiff

So do all those “principled” Democrats. Think about it.

139 posted on 06/15/2023 10:00:52 AM PDT by windsorknot
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This is all fine and good, but reason has left the building as well as the ability to expose the truth. We have a fascist Federal government that is actively using lawfare, intimidation, and force to crush dissent and any speech they deem “mis/disinformation”. We also have a mass media that has proven themselves to be in full cooperation with the Federal government and is actively using their powers to destroy the truth. Even Jefferson knew that true free speech is a necessity. We no longer have free speech.


142 posted on 06/15/2023 12:23:07 PM PDT by Intar
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What a total wuss. $34 million, probably more since government accounting is a joke, wasted on a hoax.

That’s not free speech Tom you Dem cuck, it’s persecution by a Congress.

Schiff should be fined $34 million and he can pay it with his campaign fund.

Cowardly POS.

Another reason the GOP gets screwed again. Go kill yourself Tom.


143 posted on 06/15/2023 12:29:08 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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This POS is Pence light. Proclaims his piety while acting as a cretinous pig. I hope he gets ass cancer.


145 posted on 06/15/2023 3:46:52 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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This POS is Pence light. Proclaims his piety while acting as a cretinous pig. I hope he gets ass cancer.


146 posted on 06/15/2023 3:46:55 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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There were two votes: the first combined a censure with a $15 million fine. McClintock and 19 other Republicans voted against that resolution. It failed. The second resolution was only a censure. No fine. No Republicans voted against the second resolution. Six voted present. McClintock voted for the resolution. The second resolution passed.


148 posted on 06/21/2023 6:57:30 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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