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1 posted on 06/07/2023 11:24:01 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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How does it end well? Well for those suffering and dying it doesn’t. For those pushing for this war and profiting from the billions we throw at it, it ends well if they are never held accountable.


2 posted on 06/07/2023 11:29:11 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Already 41 Ukrainian Tanks destroyed (including 8 of the German Leopards and 3 French) 120 Armored Personnel Carriers destroyed, 1 helicopter and 1 Jet fighter shot down and four THOUSAND causalities. This offensive will run out of steam in days if true.

Stats given by Alexander Mercouris podcast and based on Russian estimates.


3 posted on 06/07/2023 11:30:39 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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“When the main offensive comes, it’s very possible that Ukrainian forces will break through in certain areas.”

Larry Johnson’s got to prepare those who have swallowed his propaganda for the disappointment that is going to come when reality kicks in. It’s called “letting them down easy”.


4 posted on 06/07/2023 11:34:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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It ends with Putyn , Prig and Ramzan hanging from the gallows. Putyn at the very least.


6 posted on 06/07/2023 11:37:04 AM PDT by libh8er
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Nobody wins this damned thing.

From the start, I’ve said putin couldn’t win. He could destroy, but not win.

Winning entails being able to govern. putin and his cronies will be able to govern neither Russia nor Ukraine.

The rage from the wounds inflicted on both countries will have the populations savagely sabotaging anything Russian for decades to come.

It was the stupidest invasion since Napoleon went into Russia. And I think its ramifications are even far worse and more far-reaching than that.


8 posted on 06/07/2023 11:41:02 AM PDT by Migraine
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A cease fire. Trump says he can end this, let him suspend or drop his campaign, let Biden ask him to go and secure a ceasefire and peace.


10 posted on 06/07/2023 11:42:04 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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It doesnt.

Russia’s motivation for this war was to use the Ukraine energy supply to NATO / EU as a leverage point to keep the EU out of the future China / Taiwan conflict.

I was supposed to be a rout of the Ukrainian forces. But that didn’t happen. Now Russia has painted itself into a corner. The only “win” Russia sees is to take over Ukraine. Otherwise, a stalemate cause Russia to loose politically. If Russia gets pushed out of Crimea, then that is a BIG loss.

Remember that the real conflict is between the US dollar based central banking system and BRICS. Their plan was to push for a BRICS based world economy after the EU was side lined via Ukrain and China showed the world that the US could not successfully defend it’s friends in Asia.

Now none of that BRICS objectives appear to be moving forward. In fact, it appears to be loosing ground. But there is not an exit strategy.

So, cant stop, cant back down, cant move forward. No gracefull options left.


11 posted on 06/07/2023 11:43:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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"How Does This End Well?"

They should ask the Germans. And the French before them.

12 posted on 06/07/2023 11:48:52 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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It doesn't.

Any time there is a war it never ends well. Even if there is a clear cut good guy / bad guy (almost never) and the good guys win quickly (also almost never) it has not ended well.

Innocent people who had nothing to do with it will continue to suffer for decades.

War is not the most horrible thing in the world but it is right up there.

13 posted on 06/07/2023 11:50:16 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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Interesting article.

In a month the dneiper will be a small river easily breached with pontoon bridges in several places. The land will be dried up so tanks can move on the eastern and southern side.

Suddenly a broad area of the russian front will become vulnerable to attack. there will be no defenses.

The Russians know this right now. How will they react? Will they thin out their lines elsewhere to make the area less vulnerable? Or not. Either options poses problems.


15 posted on 06/07/2023 11:52:23 AM PDT by ckilmer (ui)
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Meanwhile, Zelensky wants more Patriot missile systems. That’s because the Russians have already destroyed one-third of the systems we sent.


That’s just false and destroys the credibility of this screed.


16 posted on 06/07/2023 11:53:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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It seems the Ukr offensive main push is to encircle Bakhmut (as I suspected the reason why Ukr held it so long).

So far it’s off to a promising start for them.

Less than a hour old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOJ48Xw4RrU


17 posted on 06/07/2023 11:56:29 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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When the main offensive comes, it’s very possible that Ukrainian forces will break through in certain areas. They might capture some territory [...], but it’s unlikely that their gains will be sustainable. The offensive will probably peter out as Russian forces gradually grind it down.

Author of this article is apparently using a "Magic 8-Ball" to write it!

The West can’t afford to give Ukraine much more weaponry [...]

"Objection, Your Honor! Counsel is stating facts not in evidence!"

[...] and support for the war effort is declining.

In Russia, to be sure!

We’ll have to see what happens.

The only sensible statement in the entire article!

Regards,

22 posted on 06/07/2023 12:52:52 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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