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1 posted on 05/30/2023 11:54:00 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Ping!...............


2 posted on 05/30/2023 11:54:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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It still needs energy to pump the water through the membrane and electricity. .
How do you get that electricity?


3 posted on 05/30/2023 11:56:06 AM PDT by Frohickey
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4 posted on 05/30/2023 11:56:48 AM PDT by Twotone
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Ummmmmm

This is hydrolysis.

Is this whole article telling us what we’ve been doing with 9 volt batteries in a shotglass of water for 100 years ?

You must be kidding me. Clean Hydrogen, Clean Oxygen?


7 posted on 05/30/2023 12:02:06 PM PDT by Celerity
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Some people need to brush up on their Thermodynamics 101.

We are not going to have an energy economy by using photovoltaic energy to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen to then generate hydrogen fueled

It’s absurd.


8 posted on 05/30/2023 12:02:51 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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Fine! AS long as its commercially viable.


9 posted on 05/30/2023 12:03:56 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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Within 5 years of this being used, the cultists would be protesting over DROPPING sea levels.


14 posted on 05/30/2023 12:08:43 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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“Hydrogen gas is a low-carbon fuel cur ...

As a matter of fact, it is a no-carbon fuel.

On a related subject, the propane people are running TV commercials referring to propane as ‘green’. I have no complaint with propane but it’s not as green as natural gas.


16 posted on 05/30/2023 12:14:21 PM PDT by cymbeline
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17 posted on 05/30/2023 12:17:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Musk I believe, has a desalination plant near SpaceX spaceport in Texas. He pulls splits off C from CO2 in the atmosphere.Then he splits of H from pure H2O made in the desalination plants. From C and H2—he makes Methane gas or CH4.

Musk uses the methane to fuel his rockets.


20 posted on 05/30/2023 12:21:20 PM PDT by ckilmer (ui)
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They don’t mention whether it takes more energy than it produces.

And I’m betting IT DOES.


21 posted on 05/30/2023 12:32:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I once spent a week in a EPICS class with mostly SLAC Post docs. They are smart kids, but not very practical.
I think I got an A- in the class.
They are dreamers looking for the unknown. I’m an engineer that dealt with reality.
Reality is this, “fossil” fuels at this point of our technology make the most sense for the well being of our present society, Pie in the sky Non-Carbon BS is just a method of controlling idiots that vote for Democrats.
Sorry but there is nothing wrong with coal, oil, or natural gas.
There is something very wrong with people that want to destroy our economy just to enslave us to some un-obtainable ideal of a pollution free world.
Do you defecate? Then you pollute by your very existence.
Please check out and save the Earth.


22 posted on 05/30/2023 12:33:02 PM PDT by rellic
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Ahh.. Yes...
The immutable effects of a government-controlled education system that features science derived using million-man math...


24 posted on 05/30/2023 12:36:30 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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The main problem with deep-ocean reverse osmosis systems has been, rapid degradation of the membranes. Anyway, nice find!


26 posted on 05/30/2023 12:39:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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I did that experiment when I was 6.

29 posted on 05/30/2023 12:49:35 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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“their system operated without generating toxic byproducts like bleach and chlorine.”

Sea water is Sodium Chloride dissolved in water. Where does the chorine go when they are done with their process to extract H2 and O2?


31 posted on 05/30/2023 12:55:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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revolutionary! the geniuses at SLAC have combined an RO membrane with good ol’ electric hydrolysis! ... i bet that combo is so obvious that it’s not even patentable ...

and, GUARANTEED to output less energy than input ...

of course, turning hydrogen into a portable fuel is the usual ball of wax: EXTREMELY reactive material, that is EXTREMELY difficult to contain in leakproof containers, and EXTREMELY difficult to transform into an energy-dense fuel source ...


33 posted on 05/30/2023 12:59:49 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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The future is brighter for advance nuclear reactors. From the March 4, 2020, edition of Sci Tech Daily, “The U.S. Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Tennessee Valley Authority have signed a memorandum of understanding to evaluate a new generation of flexible, cost-effective advanced nuclear reactors.”


38 posted on 05/30/2023 1:23:46 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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“Hydrogen gas is a low-carbon fuel”

The stupid hurts...

And they only need a few trillion of tax dollars to make it work.


41 posted on 05/30/2023 2:07:07 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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...bipolar membrane...


48 posted on 05/30/2023 3:27:47 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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