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EXCLUSIVE: America's 'working homeless' who live in RV encampments lining streets across the nation: Small business owners, prison guards and Amazon workers among people opting to live off the grid - but locals say they're a blight on their communities
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 28, 2023 | Paul Farrell

Posted on 05/28/2023 9:55:20 PM PDT by Morgana

The owner of a party bus company, Rikers Island prison guards and an Amazon worker are just some of the eclectic bunch who have formed a community of 'working homeless' people living out of RVs in the Astoria section of Queens, New York.

Similar communities have formed across the US from New England to California where people have chosen a nomadic lifestyle amid a national cost of living crisis.

Rising costs across all sectors have caused pain for Americans in every state, particularly those living in rural areas, over the past 12 months. Rental prices continue have risen eight percent compared against the same time last year. In New York, they've reached record highs with a median cost of $3,410 a month for a one-bedroom apartment. Mortgage rates have more than doubled since the Federal Reserve's key interest rate hike in March 2022, and last week hit 6.52%.

'Compared to an apartment it's better because it's my space, nobody's going to bother me,' Luis Quintero, 30, a party bus owner, told DailyMail.com.

Locals and businesses, including a Verizon repair hub and a Dollar car rental have complained about the presence of the campers on the street and residents say that RV dwellers leave mountains of trash strewn across the street, something Quintero denied.

The area around Quintero's home was immaculate, there were even two bottles of ammonia by his front door. DailyMail.com did see garbage as well as discarded furniture and a TV just left by the side of the street. A college student who attends school in the area said the street is often filled with trash because sanitation workers avoid the street because there are no homes or storefronts on it.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: homeless; housing; labor
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To: roving

We have a 38 ft 5th wheel. The wife and I both work out of it, remotely. Just bought raw land and a log mill. Going to be building our house from a load of logs.


21 posted on 05/29/2023 1:38:19 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: vivenne

In Bozeman they park along roads that have just been paved, but the housing or apt development haven’t begun building yet.


22 posted on 05/29/2023 1:40:51 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Are these the same useful idiots that vote for democrats? Yeah, I thought so.


23 posted on 05/29/2023 2:19:50 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: SteveH

Natural Resources - things you gather and use up for profit.
Human Resources -


24 posted on 05/29/2023 3:35:24 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Rest is already underway! <<<)
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To: Morgana

Where do they dump the holding tanks ?


25 posted on 05/29/2023 3:53:54 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: SteveH
Well put,I saw a lot of changes when tax codes were changed in the 90's and employee benefits ie: free,t-shirts, jackets, remodeled break areas, lunches, company picnics, uniforms, etc were no longer tax deductible.

suddenly the money dried up along with employee moral. you didnt get a new winter coat every 3-4 years, company picnics, a few t shirts, etc.

26 posted on 05/29/2023 4:22:00 AM PDT by Ikeon (Don't worry about dying, you're gonna live forever, its all about location, location, location)
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To: Morgana

I see these things all over the city. Maspeth has quite a few .


27 posted on 05/29/2023 5:33:30 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Morgana

I would love to have an RV and live in it..


28 posted on 05/29/2023 6:08:04 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: vivenne

Property taxes are a wealth tax and theft.


29 posted on 05/29/2023 6:16:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Yes, they are which was my point. Those paying them are subsidizing those who aren’t like these RV people who are using tax payer roads, garbage and other services for free.


30 posted on 05/29/2023 6:36:28 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: Morgana

Excellent book on the subject is “Nomadland” also the Oscar winning movie of 2020. (The book is better, as usual.)


31 posted on 05/29/2023 6:52:21 AM PDT by Wasichu
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To: Morgana

These people would be more able to afford housing if local governments weren’t blocking housing supply — by zoning restrictions and treating landlords as class enemies.


32 posted on 05/29/2023 7:06:36 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: griffin

Built 2 log homes for my family & oldest son 23 years ago, still live in ours, own & rent out what was sons. DID NOT USE A KIT. Kits are rip-offs for the ignorant.

Do your research about using your own logs - or you’ll have a long-term disaster.

Good luck & God bless...


33 posted on 05/29/2023 7:13:47 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Arlis

handmadehouses.com

Noah Bradley 👍


34 posted on 05/29/2023 10:58:10 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Arlis

Any advice regarding insect infiltration?


35 posted on 05/29/2023 10:58:58 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Arlis

Oh no...starting with my own raw logs. No other way. 👍


36 posted on 05/29/2023 11:00:11 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Reno89519

Price of regulation. Restaurants in Omaha are failing because for a new buyer, any and all equipment must be brought up to code. Rumor was when Gorat’s steakhouse was sold, the new owner had to invest close to a million dollars with upgrades. How many people can afford that? Food trucks were prevalent in Omaha before COVID. $1M vs. $50k? The answer is easy.

Same with real estate taxes. We’re funding retirement funds of workers, teachers etc. who are retiring at 55 not fixing roads or infrastructure.


37 posted on 05/29/2023 1:06:17 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Palio di Siena

Google Cousin Eddy.


38 posted on 05/29/2023 1:08:25 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Morgana

The logical outcome of 40+ years of cheap labor policies.

America is changing from a middle class country into a very poor one.


39 posted on 05/29/2023 1:24:50 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: griffin

Was going to do that with our own timber until I researched what you have to do to prep the wood to last.

3 to 5 year air-drying - I didn’t have the time....

Research it - it’s all out there on the web.

My mortgage company would not do loans on log homes unless they were engineered laminated logs. “Huh?” “What?” I said. I found the company that invented them, the best.

I used engineered laminated logs made in Montana (no longer in business) using Canadian Lodgepole pine. Logs look just like they did the day we laid them 23 years ago. No splitting, cracking, warping, twisting, settling. None.

I think only one company makes them today. No - looks like more. If you want a home to last forever, use them.

BTW, Deep Creek Log Homes was the biggest log home builder east of the Mississippi for about 50 years until 2008 when it went under. Their vast experience was with every log conceivable. When they found the log company I used in about 2000, they refused to build with anything else.


40 posted on 05/29/2023 5:09:12 PM PDT by Arlis
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