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What really killed COVID-19 patients: It wasn't a cytokine storm, suggests study (Secondary bacterial pneumonia from ventilators)
Medical Xpress / Northwestern University / Journal of Clinical Investigation ^ | May 4, 2023 | Catherine A. Gao et al

Posted on 05/07/2023 7:44:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

Secondary bacterial infection of the lung (pneumonia) was extremely common in patients with COVID-19, affecting almost half the patients who required support from mechanical ventilation. By applying machine learning to medical record data, scientists found that secondary bacterial pneumonia that does not resolve was a key driver of death in patients with COVID-19. It may even exceed death rates from the viral infection itself.

The scientists also found evidence that COVID-19 does not cause a "cytokine storm," so often believed to cause death.

"Our study highlights the importance of preventing, looking for and aggressively treating secondary bacterial pneumonia in critically ill patients with severe pneumonia, including those with COVID-19," said senior author Dr. Benjamin Singer.

The investigators found nearly half of patients with COVID-19 develop a secondary ventilator-associated bacterial pneumonia.

"Those who were cured of their secondary pneumonia were likely to live, while those whose pneumonia did not resolve were more likely to die," Singer said. "Our data suggested that the mortality related to the virus itself is relatively low, but other things that happen during the ICU stay, like secondary bacterial pneumonia, offset that."

The study findings also negate the cytokine storm theory, said Singer.

"The term 'cytokine storm' means an overwhelming inflammation that drives organ failure in your lungs, your kidneys, your brain and other organs," Singer said. "If that were true, if cytokine storm were underlying the long length of stay we see in patients with COVID-19, we would expect to see frequent transitions to states that are characterized by multi-organ failure. That's not what we saw."

The study analyzed 585 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU) at Northwestern Memorial Hospital with severe pneumonia and respiratory failure, 190 of whom had COVID-19.

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalxpress.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chinavirusmortality; covid; covid19; covid1984; covidmortalities; covidtruth; cytokinestorm; hospital; mfl; pneumonia; protocol
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They didn’t die from COVID, but from pneumonia acquired in the hospital, during treatment.
1 posted on 05/07/2023 7:44:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 05/07/2023 7:44:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Please make sure your loved ones are being checked for pneumonia, if on ventilators.

This sounds both preventable and treatable, going forward.


3 posted on 05/07/2023 7:46:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Surprise!


4 posted on 05/07/2023 7:47:16 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ConservativeMind

5 posted on 05/07/2023 7:47:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Most of the COVID deaths were really deaths caused by medical care professionals. Another reason they hide the truth from us.

I still say it was a bad flu. Nothing to get excited about. But then people panicked and starting making dumb decisions, and the deaths started adding up.


6 posted on 05/07/2023 7:50:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: ConservativeMind

This is not surprising to me at all. Early on I wondered if the COVID death rate of those on ventilators might actually be in great part contributed by the ventilators. Especially from pneumonia and other infections. I did some research and found ventilators were certainly not meant to be a first line of treatment and were hardly benign. Yes they save lives but hold lots of risk. The risk benefit ratio was not (IMHO) honestly weighed when it came to COVID patients.


7 posted on 05/07/2023 7:51:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It never seemed normal to me to shove plastic tubes down people’s throats. One of my neighbors is virtually a mute from it.


8 posted on 05/07/2023 7:52:07 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: lastchance

MOST of us knew this already, MANY nurses on the job were SCREAMING these facts YET they were ostracized, destroyed and shut down by social media AND the press!!!


9 posted on 05/07/2023 7:54:16 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: ConservativeMind
The term is Medical Misadventure (malpractice) and is at about 400k deaths per year as of March 2023.
10 posted on 05/07/2023 7:54:35 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: ConservativeMind
They didn’t die from COVID, but from pneumonia acquired in the hospital, during treatment.

That's exactly right. I had a friend die from those murdering clowns. The intubation scratches the throat leaving it vulnerable to bacteria and viruses. The lungs in many cases were functioning in that they had oxygen but the process of entering the bloodstream was interrupted. I forget exactly . . I should have bookmarked it. Anyways, if the Covid didn't get you, the vaccine or hospital would finish you off. This is just a total genocide effort to soft kill the population for mudder erf.

11 posted on 05/07/2023 7:55:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was going to start procrastinating this year, I just haven't got around to it.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I am of the opinion that in a hospital bed is the last place you should be if you have pneumonia. Home health treatment that place an emphasis on staying mobile as possible with access to fresh air and nutritious diet is more likely to see good results than if stuck in a hospital bed. Even if bed bound home treatment with visiting nurse would be better.


12 posted on 05/07/2023 7:55:53 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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Please make sure your loved ones are being checked for pneumonia, if on ventilators.

This sounds both preventable and treatable, going forward.

Sounds to me like something that should have been preventable and treatable at the time. Except that about 90% of our vaunted medical industry are incompetent, don't-give-a-sh*t clowns. So spare me your effing platitudes.

13 posted on 05/07/2023 7:58:57 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Thanks for screaming. I wish more had.


14 posted on 05/07/2023 7:59:05 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Truly amazing that the doctors couldn’t figure this out at the time. Who could have thunk that shoving a tube down into someone’s lungs and pumping in air for a couple of weeks could cause pneumonia?


15 posted on 05/07/2023 8:07:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: ConservativeMind

That’s interesting.

Shame it’s taken this long to figure out.


16 posted on 05/07/2023 8:11:14 PM PDT by DannyTN
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The summary says 500+ samples of which only 190 were Covid positive, and all samples were in one geographic region.

This is not much of a population, and most of it were respiratory Covid negative.

Covid deaths take place mostly because there are no longer enough lung cells left to put oxygen in blood cells. This starves organs all over the body of oxygen and they die.

From day 1 in China there was talk of plummeting blood oxygen measurements down under 85 in advanced Covid patients. Of course they died. They didn’t need some exotic cytokine storm. And they didn’t need opportunistic bacteria.

Their lung cells were destroyed. They suffocated.


17 posted on 05/07/2023 8:16:18 PM PDT by Owen
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To: ClearCase_guy

The medical staff at hospitals were very busy tiring to outpost their competitors on TikTok.

Honestly you should avoid hospitals if sick. They are Petri dishes of all kinds of viruses and bacteria. Doctors and hospitals kill almost a half million people per year with bad/negligent care.


18 posted on 05/07/2023 8:16:46 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored !)
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To: ConservativeMind

Who killed them?

Your government.
The media.
Complicit corporations.
Clapping seal liberals.


19 posted on 05/07/2023 8:17:16 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Well...I disagree. I work in a small Hospital. I’d be happy to talk about it.


20 posted on 05/07/2023 8:18:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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