Posted on 05/04/2023 8:09:59 AM PDT by fluorescence
Mostly peaceful.
When any election system can’t be explained so the average person knows who wins and loses then it’s crooked and designed to thwart the will of the voters
Rank choice voting? Grow up, this isn’t grade school or a game.
Again, why are paper ballots cast and counted on the same day unacceptable?
This is a one vote country...This cr** is plain wrong.
Participation award mentality. That way people feel like they voted for the winner.
So if I’m reading the data correctly and understand the process, if just 5,234 (or more) of the 11,262 Begich only voters had voted Palin as their second choice, then Palin would have won. Those 5,234 votes would have transferred to Palin and allowed her to overcome the final margin.
I suspect most of those voters didn’t understand the process, and thus only voted for Begich.
It’s actually not a bad system, but you have to understand how it works. Where it is in place you have to not fight it, but use it to your advantage.
If you are too lazy to take a few minutes to understand it, and just bitch about how it somehow “ain’t like it should be”, then you deserve the result it gives you.
“I suspect most of those voters didn’t understand the process, and thus only voted for Begich.”
or they didn’t like Palin
The math isn’t the problem, is it.
Here’s a question: Why do states that don’t have RCV have RCV-enabled voting machines...?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Ranked choice voting is inherently an incumbent protection mechanism in a two party system. It should never be used in the USA.
If you have a parliamentary system (e.g., most of Europe, back home in Israel) there can be a place, although that is debatable, as well.
“or they didn’t like Palin”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
True dat. In which case, perhaps Palin did not deserve to win, much as that saddens me and I’m sure many others here.
Total crap ... RCV can easily be scammed and their Alaska example proves it. IE: if the D’s run a second R candidate the vote will be split.
Think of how we got stuck with Bill ‘Peyronie’ Clinton ... Perot split the R vote. There were several rumors around that suggested that the DNC footed Perot’s campaign bills. True or not a similar tactic can be used to affect a RCV election.
As has already been said, if one needs a 9,000+ word article to explain to everyday folks how their vote probably didn’t go to who they wanted to vote for, that system is corrupt from the get-go.
If there are people who want to really openly discuss voting in our representative republic, then they need to consider all alternatives. I propose there is historical precedent and constitutional intent from our founders that an educated public is needed to vote. Literacy tests should be required as a precondition to any method of voting. Yeah, I know some of you will think I’m a flaming liberal for not requiring real property ownership as a precondition, but that’s the way I roll in the 21st century. 😂
People get this confused with another election situation and think that if they only vote for one candidate they are casting a “bullet vote” that will help their candidate win. I was confused too at first.
RCV requires that people inform themselves about a lot of minor parties that really don’t matter. This at a time when many people don’t know much about politics at all.
Actually, I suspect it’s more about suppressing the vote of the “average” voter. I would guess that where it’s used, voter turnout declines significantly except of course for the diehard card carrying members of the Government Party (Democrat).
It probably is, when the person with the most votes doesn’t win then you know the process is rigged
Lisa Murkowski in Alaska came in 2nd in votes cast but when the ranked choice system was applied she won, which is wrong and destroys the faith of the voting process
RCV is the democrat dream come true
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