Posted on 04/27/2023 4:08:00 PM PDT by Callahan
Edited on 04/27/2023 5:04:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Conservative media host and commentator Steven Crowder can be seen on a Ring Camera video berating his wife Hilary, who was at the time nearly eight months pregnant, and demanding that she handle medicine for his dogs that she was concerned was toxic to pregnant women. In the video, he snaps at her to put on her gloves to give his dogs medicine, walk the dogs, and otherwise "perform wifely duties," as she is clearly emotionally distressed.
(Excerpt) Read more at yashar.substack.com ...
“He?” Can’t tell for sure from his lilting and limp wristed behavior in videos.
How about “Steven, Your Wife’s a Leavin’”
Twitter users erupt as commentator Steven Crowder mocks Down Syndrome Barbie
I hope this was released for self protection insurance. Might have been.
He seems like kind of a d-head in his private life. But still not as bad as the leaked audio of Mel Gibson many moons ago.
That's what Crowder said. Apparently it was elective surgery. Here's Candace Owens talking about Crowder.
She didn't, he did. He bought a townhouse, moved out and cut her off financially.
Among many abhorrent things he said, I have a hard time with him telling his heavily pregnant wife to take an Uber to go grocery shopping because he needs the car to go to the gym and hang out with his friends and not wanting to be “constrained”.
What a chucklef…er
I watched this video, and there is no context. None. It is a three minute snippet of video.
We have little idea what went on in the five minutes, hours, or days leading up to this video with respect to their interactions. But we hear plenty of opinion from “her family” and “her friends” that he was abusive. Gee. Really. That sounds completely definitive to me.
I don’t know Steven Crowder personally, I know nothing about him apart from listening to him which I enjoy.
But I know that 99% of the people with an opinion on this, including me, would be considered beasts or jerks if someone were allowed to pluck 3 min of video from any point in our private lives, which something like a surveillance system such as ring may allow you to do.
I have had plenty of times I wish I hadn’t said something or acted a certain way because it was clearly wrong and even disrespectful. If I have the opportunity, I alway try to make a real, meaningful, and respectful apology. Always.
But the stream of life moves fast, and sometimes that opportunity does not present itself. And you can only regret and vow to do better in the future.
In this case, people see him speaking (with no context) in a disrespectful manner to a 8 months pregnant woman. Sure. No man should ever speak disrespectfully to a woman, much less a visibly preganant one.
But it isn’t as if a woman (especially an 8 months pregnant woman) never said mean or disrepectful things to a man, or was verbally abusive to a man.
Emotional abuse goes both ways, and just because someone is the subject of what they term “emotional abuse” in a chosen 3 minute video, does not mean she isn’t guilty of inflicting it as well. His comment about having “a boot on his neck” in that marriage may have meaning. But we don’t see that, do we. All we see is a healthy man inflicting undeserved emotional abuse on a vulnerable pregnant woman.
She is eight months pregnant, but I get the distinct impression she isn’t a saint either. They were a married couple, and marriage is not always a bed of roses without thorns.
And a three minute clip chosen by someone to make a point shouldn’t always define someone without proper context.
Especially in a marital spat.
But I know that 99% of the people with an opinion on this, including me, would be considered beasts or jerks if someone were allowed to pluck 3 min of video from any point in our private lives, which something like a surveillance system such as ring may allow you to do.
+1
Great post! Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Okay, I just watched Candace’s video. Thanks for the link.
So, the wife’s family downplays Steven’s surgery as “elective,” and Candace claims it was cosmetic to improve the appearance of a sunken chest. Candace says Steven made the surgery sound more serious to elicit sympathy.
But, I looked up “sunken chest,” and it’s more than a cosmetic issue. Someone with a sunken chest can have heart and/or lung issues and pain. The wife’s family and Candace are downplaying a condition that might’ve been serious.
Steven behaved horribly toward his pregnant wife in that ring camera video. He also can be cruel on his show. But, the wife’s family’s statement downplaying his surgery sounds coldhearted, too.
Another thought: The sunken chest explains why Steven might’ve been insecure and paranoid about the reason his wife was with him. It also might explain why his wife responded to his tirade by assuring him that she loves him.
I understand if someone is judged for the rest of their life by a 3 min video clip if the clip shows them shooting someone.
But having an argument with someone?
Before my Mom died, we were having an argument in the family that was splitting us apart, and I said some terrible things to my sister to her face that I should have just shut up about.
I wasn’t swearing. I wasn’t yelling. I wasn’t resorting to ad hominem, I was stating solid fact. In these things I can be even-tempered generally, but on this, as I explain below, I was pretty angry.
My dying mother was trying to moderate the argument, and she asked me a point blank question which I honestly answered. But it was unkind to have answered. A better person would have just lied or dropped it quietly. But I didn’t. I succumbed to my anger and desire to lash out, which I regret to this day, even if it was the truth.
My mom soon lapsed into unconsciousness and died a few days later, and I wish I had never said what I did. I would have taken it back if I could have and explained it to my mome, but it was too late.
If someone took a three minute video of that discusson, and just played it without any supporting context, I would look like a terrible, terrible, mean, thoughtless, selfish person.
But I had good reason. We had worked for weeks to get my mom into a care facility, not a hospital, that could care for a case of shingles like the awful one my mom had that was covering about a third of her body. We couldn’t care for her at home. So we found a place, and my mom, who had brain metastases, didn’t want to be there, and when my sister came from out of state, without even consulting those of us who had been caring for her for months, she removed my mom from the facility and brought her back home. I was outraged, after all we had done, hours and days of wrangling with insurance and the health care provider until they got her into the long-term rehab facility.
So, I was angry, after all we had done to get her care, that my sister came in and my mom implored her to take her back home, which she did. Then my sister left and went home, leaving all of us to have to figure out what to do next. My mom passed shortly after my sister came back in-state and the discussion occurred.
That is context. But I would feel an injustice if people judged me without that context on the basis of a three minute video taken at the peak of an argument.
As I said, I don’t know Steven Crowder. But I have seen dozens of worse arguments between people who are still married and managed to survive the arguments. My parents come to mind, who were devoted to the ends of their lives. But when you heard one of their arguments, you were sure the marriage was over. I just don’t think this video is worth what is being ascribed to it.
For what it is worth, I didn’t see my sister again for ten years. She didn’t come to the funeral. Weeks turned into months, and turned into years.
My sister lives in a remote part of a rural state with no phone, computer, or email or address.
But I found her by driving five hours to the town she lived in and asking the people at the general store who knew her.
I showed up on her doorstep, and she felt much as I did. She never intended it to linger for ten years, but...she wasn’t in a position to easily contact me, and vice versa.
We got over it...we were never NOT on speaking terms. We just never got to speak, and time passed. It is all good now.
I like Candace Owens, but she of all people should understand mistakes and criticisms, fair or unfair.
I read her book, and that much is plain. I give her kudos for honesty in her book, but it highlights the fact that few of us would survive that random 3 minute video test without damage.
"All we see is a healthy man inflicting undeserved emotional abuse on a vulnerable pregnant woman."
See my post #113 above. He's not healthy. That ring camera video was taken not long before he went into surgery for a sunken chest. Her family is downplaying that surgery as "elective."
When I first watched the ring camera video, my only thought was that he's a creep.
Now, with this new piece of information, the video looks and sounds a bit different - like a man who's worried and insecure about an upcoming surgery involving two rods inserted into his chest.
I'm not excusing the guy. He shouldn't have spoken to his pregnant wife that way. He sounds controlling. Then again, nothing he says in that video makes sense. Did he seriously think she should walk the dogs and give them medicine? Or, was he sarcastically trying to make a point? Why do they have only one car? Is he controlling her, or is the other car in the shop? He said, "The other man you see, the mother comes back." What did that mean? Are the subtitles wrong?
I'm not a Crowder fan. But, the wife's family's downplaying of his surgery makes me question their side of the story. Whatever happened here, these two are better off apart.
I feel much the same way. But we just don’t know the context.
I don't blindly follow anyone simply because they have an "I am a conservative" badge. His recent comments on his channel mocking a Downs Syndrome child and using "retard strength" in the same monologue were disgustingly vulgar and offensive.
I used to take him with a grain of salt but I have no further use for this embarrassing jerk.
I’m not a big fan of Owens, Crowder, or anyone who makes a living spouting an opinion.
But, as you’ve said, we all sound horrible sometimes when our words are taken out of context.
I’ve said things that horrified other people who overheard because they didn’t know the context.
And other people have said horrific things to me. By rights, I should’ve cut some people off for good, but I didn’t.
So, I agree with you.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.