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James Wilson, left, and Rodger Kram, right, use tumplines to carry a log weighing more than 130 pounds in Boulder's Chautauqua Park. (Credit: Patrick Campbell/CU Boulder)

1 posted on 04/24/2023 12:58:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Aliens.


2 posted on 04/24/2023 1:00:41 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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I’m not a MD; but I have to believe that the spine and neck disks would take a huge beating, and that the later years of life would be one of agonizing pain.

Unless something else killed them off before reaching old age.


4 posted on 04/24/2023 1:02:17 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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I spent 4 1/2 yrs in Boulder and know Chautauqua Park well.
A pickup would have worked better.


5 posted on 04/24/2023 1:03:55 PM PDT by sasquatch
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Nephilim. The Old Ones

Cover-up


7 posted on 04/24/2023 1:11:41 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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Most I’ve seen the word “tumpline” since last I read “Big Two-Hearted River.”


8 posted on 04/24/2023 1:17:40 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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“I cut a 1-foot-long section of pine and weighed it on my bathroom scale,”

Good to see a professor with some common sense.

I imagine getting a third or fourth member to the team would also help in moving those logs. Although I guess the population of Chaco Canyon wasn’t like we see in the depictions of Egypt with thousands of slaves moving a stone block.


9 posted on 04/24/2023 1:18:01 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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four to a log carrying it between the pairs seems more reasonable... how much grant funding can i expect?


10 posted on 04/24/2023 1:21:48 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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I think this was more or less how the Indians and the Spanish Dominican friars in Oaxaca carried the organ pipes from the ships in Acapulco up the mountains in order to build the organs of those magnificent mission churches they built up in the mountains.

People knew how to do these things, and even when you read about the work of European-descent people going to the West in what is now the US, you are just stunned at their determination and stamina.


15 posted on 04/24/2023 1:40:38 PM PDT by livius
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They have been reconstructing the Chaco Canyon ruins for about 100 years. And it shows.

It's ironic, I suppose, that to get there I had to drive for many miles on dirt road, but at the destination there was a modern federal building museum.

Chaco itself was like a group of small cities spaced apart, with medieval quality stonework, of maybe three different kinds. A thousand years ago or so, it acted as the center of a major trade route and banking center, all the way from New England to South America.

A currency of the time was chips of turquoise, and they found a "vault" with tens of thousands of chips in it.

16 posted on 04/24/2023 2:07:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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technique inspired, in part, by sherpas in Nepal.


So the Sherpas of Nepal were in the area back then?


19 posted on 04/24/2023 2:22:30 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I am confused.

Sure I guess it is possible, but far more likely that biological females did this kind of work

Assuming of course there were no wheels (unlikely), or large pack animals (also unlikely)


20 posted on 04/24/2023 2:22:59 PM PDT by algore
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Ah! Sideways. Good idea. (Yes, that’s using your head(s) outside of the ivory tower.

/so the earlier “peer-reviewed” paper touting the weight of the logs was wrong, eh?

(Woyld laz head it?)


23 posted on 04/24/2023 3:22:49 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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This is how they did it at Stonehenge? And the pyramids?


24 posted on 04/24/2023 3:27:08 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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No wonder the remains of Indians found in that area suffered from arthritis of the back and neck and only lived to around 35-40 years of age.


26 posted on 04/24/2023 3:33:07 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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Bump


27 posted on 04/24/2023 3:36:43 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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In a new study, several researchers at CU Boulder reenacted a small part of a trek that people in what is today the Southwest United States may have made more than 1,000 years ago.

The word 'MAY' should never appear in a scientific paper. Its basically saying we really have no idea but this is one of a hundred possible ways they could have done it.

Lazy research.

28 posted on 04/24/2023 3:59:56 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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Nick...

You are on fire today with tree stories!

First, a tree filled with cement destroys power lines.

Second, two guys with PhD.s walk around Colorado with a 130 pound log strapped to their heads.

Why do I think that having 65 pounds of wood pressing down on the top of my skull, for an extended period of time, is not a good idea?


29 posted on 04/24/2023 4:04:58 PM PDT by zeestephen (43,000)
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probably permanently f-ed up their cervical spine, they just don’t know it yet ...


30 posted on 04/24/2023 4:47:37 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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2 guys, 130 pounds; one each side, log on shoulders.

3 guys, 200 pound log on shoulders, 2 on one side, center guy on other side.

Either case, periodically switch sides to give shoulders a rest; can't do that using ones head. Also, co cordage ,etc needed.

Walking single file prevents problems encountered with this trumpline method.


32 posted on 04/24/2023 6:25:46 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Why are there so many more horse's @33es than horses?)
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Pretty clean cut on those logs, there, Prof. I’m guessing he didn’t use stone tools.


34 posted on 04/24/2023 7:46:39 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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