James Wilson, left, and Rodger Kram, right, use tumplines to carry a log weighing more than 130 pounds in Boulder's Chautauqua Park. (Credit: Patrick Campbell/CU Boulder)
Aliens.
I’m not a MD; but I have to believe that the spine and neck disks would take a huge beating, and that the later years of life would be one of agonizing pain.
Unless something else killed them off before reaching old age.
I spent 4 1/2 yrs in Boulder and know Chautauqua Park well.
A pickup would have worked better.
Nephilim. The Old Ones
Cover-up
Most I’ve seen the word “tumpline” since last I read “Big Two-Hearted River.”
“I cut a 1-foot-long section of pine and weighed it on my bathroom scale,”
Good to see a professor with some common sense.
I imagine getting a third or fourth member to the team would also help in moving those logs. Although I guess the population of Chaco Canyon wasn’t like we see in the depictions of Egypt with thousands of slaves moving a stone block.
four to a log carrying it between the pairs seems more reasonable... how much grant funding can i expect?
I think this was more or less how the Indians and the Spanish Dominican friars in Oaxaca carried the organ pipes from the ships in Acapulco up the mountains in order to build the organs of those magnificent mission churches they built up in the mountains.
People knew how to do these things, and even when you read about the work of European-descent people going to the West in what is now the US, you are just stunned at their determination and stamina.
It's ironic, I suppose, that to get there I had to drive for many miles on dirt road, but at the destination there was a modern federal building museum.
Chaco itself was like a group of small cities spaced apart, with medieval quality stonework, of maybe three different kinds. A thousand years ago or so, it acted as the center of a major trade route and banking center, all the way from New England to South America.
A currency of the time was chips of turquoise, and they found a "vault" with tens of thousands of chips in it.
technique inspired, in part, by sherpas in Nepal.
—
So the Sherpas of Nepal were in the area back then?
I am confused.
Sure I guess it is possible, but far more likely that biological females did this kind of work
Assuming of course there were no wheels (unlikely), or large pack animals (also unlikely)
Ah! Sideways. Good idea. (Yes, that’s using your head(s) outside of the ivory tower.
/so the earlier “peer-reviewed” paper touting the weight of the logs was wrong, eh?
(Woyld laz head it?)
This is how they did it at Stonehenge? And the pyramids?
No wonder the remains of Indians found in that area suffered from arthritis of the back and neck and only lived to around 35-40 years of age.
Bump
The word 'MAY' should never appear in a scientific paper. Its basically saying we really have no idea but this is one of a hundred possible ways they could have done it.
Lazy research.
Nick...
You are on fire today with tree stories!
First, a tree filled with cement destroys power lines.
Second, two guys with PhD.s walk around Colorado with a 130 pound log strapped to their heads.
Why do I think that having 65 pounds of wood pressing down on the top of my skull, for an extended period of time, is not a good idea?
probably permanently f-ed up their cervical spine, they just don’t know it yet ...
3 guys, 200 pound log on shoulders, 2 on one side, center guy on other side.
Either case, periodically switch sides to give shoulders a rest; can't do that using ones head. Also, co cordage ,etc needed.
Walking single file prevents problems encountered with this trumpline method.
Pretty clean cut on those logs, there, Prof. I’m guessing he didn’t use stone tools.