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We used to have steam-powered cars. What happened to them — and will they come back?
FreeThink ^ | April 9, 2023 | By Matt Benoit

Posted on 04/10/2023 10:56:50 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

I’ll be the first in line to support a coal fired automobile billowing smoke in leftists faces.


41 posted on 04/10/2023 11:24:28 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Navy Patriot

For mobile units yes. For stationary power steam cannot be beaten.


42 posted on 04/10/2023 11:25:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; joshua c

Fuel was either kerosene or gasoline for the Stanley steam car.


43 posted on 04/10/2023 11:26:32 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

Nope. Absolutely false.

Thee most efficient engine made in the world is steam.

Lets see your ICE engines develop in excess of 4 to 5 thousand HP with two cylinders.

Cant do it, and you know it.


44 posted on 04/10/2023 11:26:38 AM PDT by crz
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To: Organic Panic
I miss the gentle glow of lamps fueled by whale oil.

And the warm, if scratchy, voices on the Victrola.


45 posted on 04/10/2023 11:28:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Yo-Yo

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46 posted on 04/10/2023 11:29:01 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Around here one could run a great distance in a steam car powered by shredded Amazon boxes.


47 posted on 04/10/2023 11:29:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: AnalogReigns

Power plants for energy. Steam. We still use it massively. Saying “nuclear” or “oil” or “coal” is just the fuel to heat up steam.

Steam engine is the greatest invention ever IMO. Massive change due to them.


48 posted on 04/10/2023 11:30:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: marktwain

What the other guy said. Steam is THE propulsion source for energy creation.

Also think of steam locos. 2 tiny cylinders up front propel not only itself but an entire loaded train of 100 cars at honest speeds. That is serious power.


49 posted on 04/10/2023 11:33:34 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: Red Badger

The mechanics and logistics of steam powered vehicles make them impractical. Who wants to go out on freezing morning fill the boiler with water (you did remember to drain it so it would freeze and break, didn’t you?), start a fire. wait half an hour, then refill the boiler every few miles and add more fuel? Yes, there are automatic water and fuel feeders, but they add expense and complications to the equation.

The reasons the railroads were eager to switch from steam to diesel electric were because the steam locomotives were a high maintenance item that were in constant need of work and they were dirty.


50 posted on 04/10/2023 11:34:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Absolutely, Stationary Plants generating electricity are ideal for variety of fuels and efficiency, and inclusion of pollution control technology.

Single disadvantage: Quick start up for unpredicted demand.

51 posted on 04/10/2023 11:36:03 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: lee martell

That was gasoline-powered cars before the electric starter. You can STILL mechanically start a lot of cars, but without a handcrank, it involves pushing the car until everything is turning fast enough. I once did it with a 1998-ish Ford Taurus.


52 posted on 04/10/2023 11:38:37 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Steam engine is the greatest invention ever IMO.

I can see why you say that, it got all the thinking and innovation started.

53 posted on 04/10/2023 11:40:37 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: dangus

Sure, I’d roll-started modern cars. Stick shift, don’t know if you could do it with an auto. I’ve also crank started tractors. It’s a lot of work, and if not shown the proper respect, will break your arm. (Ford fractures were a thing in the day)


54 posted on 04/10/2023 11:41:42 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: AnalogReigns

Our NUCLEAR ships? Technically, I suppose Nuclear propulsion is steam-based, but I’m thinking getting regulatory feasibility might be tough.


55 posted on 04/10/2023 11:42:16 AM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: Red Badger

You could see a Stanley before you could hear it . . . and you could smell its owner before you could see him.


56 posted on 04/10/2023 11:44:02 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: gundog

Interesting concept, by the microwave magnetron has to be powered by an electrical source, which means a generator. I suppose that a fire could start the water boiling until it could turn a generator to power a the magnetron, but the laws of thermodynamics chimes in and kicks over that sand castle with resistive and thermal and mechanical losses.


57 posted on 04/10/2023 11:44:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Red Badger

When mfr. tech advances to being able to consistently produce a closed vapor loop.


58 posted on 04/10/2023 11:46:47 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: crz
The number of cylinders is irrelevant.

Steam, in the configuration we are discussing (small, mobile power plants) is much less efficient, because water is a poor working fluid which is depleted as it is used to provide power.

Steam turbines, with superheated steam as a working fluid, are efficient in very large plants with access to almost unlimited water for cooling and steam replacement.

59 posted on 04/10/2023 11:48:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Red Badger
We may someday see hybrid cars with turbine-electric engines including steam turbine-electric if the price is low enough. Steam turbine-electric engines for ships were superseded in the 1930s as the designers needed to reduce the rotations from a 3,000 rpm turbine to a 300 rpm propeller. Such mechanics added size, weight, and complexity compared to a diesel engine. With electric cars or electric propulsion ships such as the COmbined Gas-Electric-Steam (COGES) in cruise ships, the technology may be feasible in the future.

The turbine needed to power a generator for a hybrid car could very small and light weight compared to a diesel-electric or gas-electric.

60 posted on 04/10/2023 11:50:03 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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