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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Cletus.D.Yokel wrote:


“REPORTER: “..What laws were broken?”
DA BRAGG: “..law does not so require...”

REPORTER (shoulda asked): “Yes but...what law \is\ that, that does not require it?”

Good point!

Lots of folks asking that question.

Lawyer Barnes and former assistant u.s. attorney McCarthy say that is why it’s weak:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4120141/posts?page=211#211


Robert Barnes notes –

“The indictment is legally insufficient on its face. New York state law does not make it a crime to influence an election. Federal law does not make it a crime either. Maybe that’s why no law is actually cited in the indictment. Nor are the facts sufficient.”

Andrew McCarthy, a senior fellow at National Review Institute and a former assistant U.S. attorney notes –

“So I think this indictment—even before you get to the statute of limitations and whether he’s got jurisdiction to enforce federal law—I would dismiss it on its face because it fails to state a crime. Here it fails to state a crime 34 times!””

Freepers chime in:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4143297/posts?page=6#6


If the indictment does not state which laws were broken, is it a legal instrument under New York law or not?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4143297/posts?page=16#16


Its not. A criminal defendant has the constitutional right to know what he is charged with. Otherwise how do you defend against it? This faulty indictment is a clear violation of due process. Also, the FEC has sole and exclusive jurisdiction over federal campaign finance cases, not NY. NY can not glom on to something they have zero jurisdiction over, in order to skirt statutes of limitation and/or to upgrade misdemeanors to felonies.


1,386 posted on 04/05/2023 7:06:14 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: WildHighlander57
Does Bragg intend to claim that Trump was previously convicted of an election related crime in order to bootstrap a New York misdemeanor and combine them into a new felony?

If no, does Bragg intent to litigate (or re-litigate) charges made, or investigations completed and dismissed, from years ago?

How, legally, can Bragg prosecute Federal election crimes where no such powers exist?

1,394 posted on 04/05/2023 7:18:14 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: WildHighlander57

If no crime is cited, then it is a fishjing expedition and Trump will necessarily need to prove his innocence and “discovery” is a non-thing.

Due Process issue.


1,401 posted on 04/05/2023 7:32:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Trans Day of Vengeance. April 1, 2023. In an urban center near you. Don't miss it!)
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To: WildHighlander57
void and voidable..:

the law relating to false imprisonment classifies affidavits, informations and indictments into "void" and "voidable." The "void" class includes those setting forth facts which in no conceivable form can constitute a criminal offense; or if they might constitute an offense, the court issuing the process had no jurisdiction over such offense or the person charged with the offense. The "voidable" class includes those where a bona fide attempt has been made to charge a possible offense under the statute, but by reason of some defect or irregularity such charge is per se insufficient in law. As to such "voidable" complaint, or "voidable" processes issued thereon there can be no false imprisonment per se.he law relating to false imprisonment classifies affidavits, informations and indictments into "void" and "voidable." The "void" class includes those setting forth facts which in no conceivable form can constitute a criminal offense; or if they might constitute an offense, the court issuing the process had no jurisdiction over such offense or the person charged with the offense. The "voidable" class includes those where a bona fide attempt has been made to charge a possible offense under the statute, but by reason of some defect or irregularity such charge is per se insufficient in law. As to such "voidable" complaint, or "voidable" processes issued thereon there can be no false imprisonment per se.

https://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2982&context=clevstlrev>

1,455 posted on 04/05/2023 10:05:06 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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