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'Died suddenly' posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies
AP, WXYZ Detroit ^ | February, 4th, 2023 | ALI SWENSON and ANGELO FICHERA

Posted on 02/06/2023 7:09:00 AM PST by David Chase

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To: David Chase; Jane Long; grey_whiskers; metmom
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled 'Died suddenly' posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies, David Chase wrote:
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It is true that when the facts come out that someone who died young or “suddenly” wasn’t even vaccinated and/or died from known medical issues the Vax Death Group is so quiet, and not even embarrassed.

Withholding excitement from another assumed Vax death would be classy.

As I’ve said before, throughout my career as a Paramedic for Detroit Fire/EMS, sadly I’ve pumped on the chest of people of All ages and pushed drugs and defibrillated for various reasons trauma/medical.

You and others in the MSM are pretending that the nation, indeed the whole world, has not been gaslighted, betrayed, and abused by the  largest psychological warfare effort in history surrounding Covid-19.

Masks don't work and yet mandates required mask wearing to  go to a grocery store, the mall, or a walk on the beach. Vaccines don't work and are aren't helpful, yet people were told they needed one to protect themselves and they couldn't work or go to school without them. 'Vaccine  efficacy' was always a sick lie, in part because they used a deceptive relative risk calculation (97%) instead of absolute risk (>1%).  The public has not forgotten disinformationists like you and the lies you tell, and the distortions you push even now. You're still at it.

I wrote a post before the vaccines were released stating my concern that the 'vaccine' was the larger threat to human health. I wish I was wrong.

Since then I posted that it's not possible for millions of annual influenza cases to drop to 1000 once the 'Plandemic' began, when they were using an invalid PCR test to diagnose Covid-19, and then deny all medications and treatment to sick people.

I posted about the unacceptably high numbers of 'vaccine deaths'early in 2021.  I posted reseach proving HCQ/AZ and Ivermectin work. I posted FDA excerpts showing the 'vaccines' were never tested for stopping the spread and an FEC excerpt stating that the 'vaccines' are gene therapy. I posted Moderna and PFizer trial information and a wide range of aspects of the plandemic's fake 'vaccine'.

The #1 tactic shills like you implemented was 'make believe' ignorance. You all pretend I and others didn't didn't post anything at all and that the only valid information comes from the Biden regime  and Fauci's paid pharma/universities/peer reviewed research. The MSM and it's helper shills pretend to be 'deaf/dumb/blind' to worldwide results showing, for example, that Ivermectin and HCQ work. You're still doing it.

You pretend you 'didn't know' then and still 'don't know' now, even with official statistics or CDC admissions, that the vaccine was never needed/safe/effective, that medications work on Covid, that masks and lockdowns don't work etc.

So when the evidence is becoming sadly undeniable, the deaths I and others tried to warn about start striking children, monsters like you pretend that none of the prior psychological warfare you actively engage(d) in ever happened. You pretend that, apropos of nothing, I and others are 'excited' to see death and suffering in the news. You sneer that we're 'so silent and not even embarrassed' when we don't comment on unrelated content (deaths not related to vax).

You helped to conceal vaccine harm and you're still at it with your epic levels of fake ignorance, pretending that I LIKE the result of the information warfare abuses you cultivated on FR. The psychological warfare continues and you and your 'selective attention' are still part of it, now working to blame the results of your actions on the people who fought to expose you and your kind and the dangers of the 'vaccine' you protect.

You are amazingly evil and duplicitous. You're still pretending the 'vaccine' is not responsible for a rise in sudden deaths simply because not ALL sudden deaths are related to the 'vaccine'. You're 'all or nothing' gambit is still designed to downplay the dangers of the 'vaccine'.

Those wanting to stop the vax jump on sudden deaths in the news, hoping that finally enough evidence is slipping through the cracks, reaching the public, to stop the continued use of a toxic 'vaccine', and its pushers, from killing people.

You are essentially lying in your own (information warfare) filthy waste, and proclaiming the real problem is that people like me are excited to see others suffer and die to pad our egos about some arcane personal theories we hold.

"...throughout my career as a Paramedic for Detroit Fire/EMS..." Your disproportionate ego has been your one true love. Any claim you make to helping the public as a paramedic has been superceded with your reputation as one who could have saved lives simply by remaining silent. Insetad you withheld and denied information that would protect people from death and suffering, and your continued, tireless work running interference against those who actively warn the public exposes you and your kind.


61 posted on 02/06/2023 8:17:40 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Robert DeLong
Asking questions and making definitive statements are two separate things.

So it seems you'll agree that statements such as "it's the vax unless proven otherwise" is indeed definitive, and let's be honest - ignorant?

62 posted on 02/06/2023 8:18:54 AM PST by Fury
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To: ChildOfThe60s

You might be on to something.

Keeping us divided and bickering could be a plan.


63 posted on 02/06/2023 8:19:46 AM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase

**Here when a child dies, the crew come out and say the same things over and over, with glee.**

Over and over, with glee? Your absurd statement shows your extreme bias. Therefore it’s hard to take you serious.


64 posted on 02/06/2023 8:22:07 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Robert DeLong

Hi Robert.

Long time no see.

My I-Pad is at 4% power. It’s gonna die any minute.

Otherwise, I’d stay and chat.
If you’d be willing to chat with a low information type like me. 😆

Have a great day.


65 posted on 02/06/2023 8:22:16 AM PST by David Chase
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To: Zuriel

Would like me to post those threads?

There are many. In fact a huge amount.

Or, you can be excited to seek out that info on your own, that way you know I’m not B.S’ing you.


66 posted on 02/06/2023 8:24:09 AM PST by David Chase
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To: bray

My son is an airline pilot and has worked for numerous airlines including private. There has been an 11% increase in heart issues, above the norm since all of the forced vaccinations. Hence leading to lowering standards and raising the retirement age. All of the shortages have been caused by the vaccines and/or mandating vaccinations.


67 posted on 02/06/2023 8:24:36 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: ransomnote

My I-Pad is dying. Be back later.
Hey, I missed you. Glad you stopped by.


68 posted on 02/06/2023 8:25:06 AM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase

Heart issues from the jab are indeed not the cause of every death of a young person or athlete. But deaths from heart issues seem to be about sixteen times more common in some studied situations starting when the jab was in high use. Pressuming the individual cases puts a human face on it and gives a flavor to the damage that the jab is apparently doing, however indeed we don’t know from headlines if particular stories were due to this particular cause.


69 posted on 02/06/2023 8:27:25 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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“Here’s an example……on average there are about 48,000 cases of Bell’s Palsy a year.”

I looked all over for this information but found nothing. Could you please post a link?


70 posted on 02/06/2023 8:33:00 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: David Chase
the Covid 19 vaccine is no different and people had adverse events and some people may have died.

May have died? What do you mean may have?

Pfizer has admitted for the record (after a court forced them to) that people died from the vaccine even during their initial small trials. So shouldn’t you have said “people have died” and left the “may” out of it? Or were you not aware, or do you not think the deaths in the trials would have likewise translated to the actual rollout?

And do you agree that Pfizer and these other vaccine companies should have been able to keep that data that showed these deaths and huge numbers of other various ailments hidden for 75 years as they originally tired to? Surely you don’t agree with that?

And what about the high percentage of deaths in the trials, especially to unborn fetuses, apparently much higher than any other vaccine trials before, should the shots have been allowed to be distributed at such a massive level, knowing the danger? Or especially with the lie the vaccines were safe for expectant mothers?

And what about the lies that the covid vaccines blocked transmission? Lies they knowingly gave in order to help sell the product in greater quantities, when its effectiveness in even reducing symptoms is still extremely difficult to quantify, or justify subjecting the patient to the risk of the vaccine’s own spike protein.

And what about the fact that according to VAERS, more people have died from covid vaccines, that all other vaccines combined in history? Yes there was a wide distribution of covid vaccines, but many others are widely distributed each and every year.

And what about the liability exemption that is given to the vaccine manufacturers, preventing them from being sued from those who were injured? People are literally dying but their families have no legal recourse? You think that is fair, to protect these billion dollar companies who wanted to hide rhe data of the damages they caused?

Hopefully you’ll address each of these serious questions, and not just wave them all off with a short reply, because they are all serious concerns. Thanks.

71 posted on 02/06/2023 8:34:35 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who believes it.)
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To: mikelets456

You would think that would be big news yet is being hid by the Establishment just like the heart attacks.


72 posted on 02/06/2023 8:37:17 AM PST by bray (Order at TheRepublicofTexas.store)
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To: David Chase

Ireland’s death rates are 42% higher than pre-China Virus levels.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ireland-sees-42-more-deaths-in-past-two-months-compared-to-pre-covid-levels/?utm_source=popular


73 posted on 02/06/2023 8:37:54 AM PST by JayGalt (For evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing.”)
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To: David Chase

If the Covid 19 “vaccine” is based off the virus then one could conclude that the vaccine does increase the likelihood of Bell’s Palsy-—by 2X-4X

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781369

In this issue of JAMA Otolaryngology, Tamaki et al4 queried a large-scale EMR database contributed to by 41 health care organizations during a 1-year span to look more specifically at rates of Bell palsy in patients with a COVID-19 diagnosis. Of 348 088 identified patients with COVID-19, 284 had a diagnosis of Bell palsy within 8 weeks of COVID-19 diagnosis: 153 patients had new-onset Bell palsy, whereas 131 had recurrent Bell palsy. The authors translate this to an 8-week incidence of 82 per 100 000 patients with COVID-19. However, if using a crude analysis and assuming a prepandemic rate of 40 per 100 000 person-years and no seasonality, Bell palsy would be expected to naturally occur in only 21 of 348 088 patients during an 8-week period. This suggests that COVID-19 could be a risk factor for Bell palsy. It would be interesting to determine historical rates of Bell palsy using this database and compare them with the rate during the pandemic. Furthermore, Tamaki et al4 compared matched COVID-19–vaccinated patients (without a known history of COVID-19) with COVID-19–positive patients and found that vaccinated patients had a lower incidence of Bell palsy. Although these data do not directly determine the risk associated with vaccination, the inference is that the risk of acquiring Bell palsy with COVID-19 is greater than the risk of Bell palsy associated with the vaccine.


74 posted on 02/06/2023 8:38:16 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: David Chase

It’s when you tossed in ‘with glee’ that your statement clobbered your reliability.

I’ve seen enough damage and death in those I know, since the poyzeen poke came along, to know we’ve been lied to immensely.


75 posted on 02/06/2023 8:40:22 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: bray

It’s on the government’s website——they won’t let pilots fly for 48-72 hours after vaccination due to “health concerns”. If it’s so “safe”, then why the concern?

https://www.faa.gov/coronavirus/guidance_resources/vaccine_faq

The Federal Air Surgeon determined that FAA medical certificate holders may not act as pilot in command, or in any other capacity as a required flightcrew member, for 48 hours after each dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, Novavax, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. The Federal Air Surgeon made this determination after evaluation of available medical information about these COVID-19 vaccines and potential side effects. As a result of this determination and consistent with 14 CFR § 61.53(a), each person subject to part 67 who receives the vaccine must wait 48 hours after each dose before acting as pilot in command or as a required flightcrew member.


76 posted on 02/06/2023 8:42:53 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: shadowlands1960

👍🏼....in other words....bupkis.


77 posted on 02/06/2023 8:43:27 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 of day. )
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To: David Chase

Malone claims he suffered an injury from the vax which is one of the reasons he is speaking out. While he does believe in limited application of the vax, he is adamantly opposed to over application, such as in young people, especially children, who in amy parts of the country have had these dangerous and unnecessary drugs forced on them.

So you don’t see that as noble? You have to believe that 5 year olds all deserve this poison pumped in their veins, or that person is a grifter? Of if they took the shot for any reason their word doesn’t count?

I myself took the vaccine, as required for my six figure job, and immediately had an injury that required me to see a cardiologist. Right at the time visits to see any cardiologists exploded to a six month wait time, where they still stand.

But according to you, I can’t voice any concerns over the vaccine because I took it, and must be labeled a hypocrite? Ridiculous. I have more standing than most anyone, because I have a documented injury.

I see why you want to push back on all this though. Because you are a cog in the wheel that has pushed these shots on everyone, and don’t want to be held liable.


78 posted on 02/06/2023 8:48:27 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who believes it.)
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To: mikelets456

Re: 76 - No, you can’t do that.

There are other vaccines where there is 48-72 hour period where these mandatory post-dose observation

- see https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/vaccines.pdf

for Rabies

- and see https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/AllergyAntihistamineImmunotherapyMedication.pdf

for Allergy – Antihistamine & Immunotherapy medications


79 posted on 02/06/2023 8:50:38 AM PST by Fury
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To: ransomnote; metmom; grey_whiskers; bagster; Enlightened1; cgbg; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; ...
Hmmmmm......must've received another flush of $Pfizerbucks$ into its $hill $hlush fund.....for its back from the beyond attempt, at AP fake news ‘distraction/twisting/smearing’ surfacing.

The good thing? The clear majority of FReepers see right through their Bea Ess.

And, we see that the search function doesn't work.....for this $hill

‘Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4128713/posts

‘Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4128776/posts

Numerous posts, on the above threads....calling out the AP lies.

80 posted on 02/06/2023 8:51:15 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 of day. )
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