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Fire Hazard: Norweigen Shipping Company First to Ban Electric Cars on Ferries
RAIR Foundation ^ | January 20, 2023 | Amy Mek

Posted on 01/22/2023 1:16:04 PM PST by george76

A Norwegian shipping company bans electric cars on its ferries. According to a risk analysis, such vehicles’ fire risk is too significant. An ocean liner had recently sunk because of it.

The Norwegian shipping company, Havila Kystruten, has banned electric, hybrid, and hydrogen cars from its ferries. After a risk analysis, it was concluded that the risk to the safety of the shipping fleet was too significant. If a vehicle catches fire, the fire can no longer be extinguished.

The risks for ships from the transport of Electric cars (EV) have been discussed since the “Felicity Ace” sank off the Azores, Portugal, last February. E-vehicles on board had caught fire. The fire could not be extinguished. Finally, the colossal ship sank with thousands of electric cars, including Porsche and Bentley “green” vehicles.

Capt. Rahul Khanna, global head of marine consulting at Allianz (AGCS), a marine insurance specialist, explains that the problem with EVs is that lithium-ion batteries in the cars can actually propagate the fire, igniting more vigorously as compared to conventional cars. A single vehicle fire could prove catastrophic.

E-cars are a danger for ship passengers..

According to a report by the TradeWinds shipping news service, Havila’s Chief executive Bent Martini said the risk analysis showed that the fire in an electric car required a particularly complex rescue operation. The crew on board could not afford this. Passengers would also be at risk. This is different for vehicles with combustion engines. A possible fire is usually easy to fight by the ship’s crew.

After the sinking of the “Felicity Ace,” Greenpeace also warned against e-cars on ships: “In general, electronic components and especially electric vehicles pose a risk for every transport.”

Havila travels the so-called mail ship route along the coast of northern Norway. The tours are essential for Scandinavian passenger and cargo traffic and are also very popular with vacationers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: bans; electric; electriccars; ev; evs; fires; hybrid; hydrogencars; norway
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To: Larry Lucido

I can envision engineers coming up with unique fixes. A new ferry designed to handle these fires. All EVs have to park in the bottom deck. The bottom deck is below the water line. Any fire automatically triggers the outside water to rush into the chamber. The fire may not be extinguished immediately, but it will not spread.

Or, all EVs are placed on a separate barge, connected to the back of the ferry, with only a cable connecting the barge to the ferry. If a fire starts, the cable is severed and the barge floats away from the ferry. If the other EV owners complain, they can be sent a catalog of the millions of cars they could purchase that do not need a barge (good ol gasoline automobiles).


21 posted on 01/22/2023 1:56:40 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: george76

How long before the usual suspects show up posting pictures of ICE cars on fire.


22 posted on 01/22/2023 1:56:56 PM PST by Revel
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To: ameribbean expat

The average passenger car in Norway is driven less than 700 miles a month.

Charging is not nearly the issue in Norway as in the USA.


23 posted on 01/22/2023 1:58:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: tet68

“Naah, by that time the ferries will be electric too.”

Hey, fireworks for free!


24 posted on 01/22/2023 2:03:48 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: george76

And these are people take risk assessment seriously, not for the ‘green’, homo or other social agenda.


25 posted on 01/22/2023 2:17:20 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Gnome1949

Yup—property insurance companies are going to have lots of demands that will strangle the industry—it is just a matter of time.


26 posted on 01/22/2023 2:20:41 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: george76

They have it all wrong. We need to make the ferries fully electric so they have a fighting chance against the cars. Greta said so.


27 posted on 01/22/2023 2:26:51 PM PST by 12chachacha (Bad illogical advice)
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To: ping jockey

Actuaries are about as un-PC as it gets, when it gets down to their real business.


28 posted on 01/22/2023 2:31:42 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: george76

Norway generates a lot of electricity so they have been promoting EV’s.

That has got to be a financial hit for the ferry company to prohibit EV’s.


29 posted on 01/22/2023 2:33:48 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: george76

Ruh roh.


30 posted on 01/22/2023 3:26:35 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Your idea about the towed barge is a good solution.


31 posted on 01/22/2023 3:32:15 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: george76
How about parking garages under office, hotel, residential high rise buildings? Just a matter of time before a e-vehicle fire burns one to the ground.
32 posted on 01/22/2023 3:34:28 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: george76

Airline companies soon to refuse transporting EVs for same reason.


33 posted on 01/22/2023 3:51:35 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: SaxxonWoods

once everyone goes electric.

/\

Everyone is doomed once everyone goes electric.

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Fossil fuel,

is civilization ,

Without it we have a stone age existence.

.


34 posted on 01/22/2023 3:54:02 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: george76

Have they and when will they be banned from US ferries? What about shipping to and from Hawaii and elsewhere overseas?


35 posted on 01/22/2023 3:59:40 PM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: george76

Someone put up a video here a few months ago showing an EV bus going up in flames while passengers were getting on board.


37 posted on 01/22/2023 5:08:39 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Your idea of a separate barge is a good one. I think I’d make the owners stay with them.

But water putting out a fire below the water line I don’t think is a good one. It takes 40 times the water to put out an EV as compared to a gas car. That quantity of water could sink the ship if all the cars caught before enough water could get to the one starting it.

Like some one else said, this is just another nail in the green coffin.


38 posted on 01/22/2023 6:25:33 PM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: wjcsux

Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM

Electric bus bursts into flames, sets nearby vehicles on fire in China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T71cVhxG_v4


39 posted on 01/22/2023 6:38:54 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

We went to Beijing in April 2018 to visit my wife’s family. There was an EV graveyard that probably covered about 20 acres on the south side of the city. There was a road going through it that we walked on to get to the commuter train from the hotel we were staying at. There must have been a couple hundred electric busses crammed in there. There were piles of electric scooters and piles of charging stations in among the busses. There were electric cars that were staked in piles too.
One huge toxic waste dump.


40 posted on 01/22/2023 6:53:52 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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