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1 posted on 01/20/2023 2:11:06 PM PST by Sam77
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However one might feel about Ponzi schemes, this is just smart politics.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 2:12:46 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Government always tries to steal freedom; People should always try to stop Government.)
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3rd posting


3 posted on 01/20/2023 2:16:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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The RATS will talk them into it so they won’t have to take the hit for screwing over the American seniors. The RINOs don’t mind. They’ll do it.


4 posted on 01/20/2023 2:16:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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How about instead of ‘cutting’ Social Security you limit people to getting out of it only what they’ve paid into it?

That means undoing all the leeches the Democrats attached to SS over the past sixty years.


7 posted on 01/20/2023 2:20:16 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Trump is right.

Political suicide for Rs.

Let the programs run their course.

If SS runs out of money, Gov has to cut benefits or raise taxes. Let the Ds make that choice. Rs vote Present.


8 posted on 01/20/2023 2:20:26 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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Listen to THE MAN!


9 posted on 01/20/2023 2:21:28 PM PST by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!))
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Repukes trying to prove how conservative they are twist themselves into knots with this. He’s helping thr party by putting this position front and center


14 posted on 01/20/2023 2:27:44 PM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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and who’s the genius that proposed said cuts???


15 posted on 01/20/2023 2:29:30 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Yep, some Republicans promiscuously cozy up to Biden with his wanton spending, like Tom Cotton, always remember Tom Cotton, engaging in foreplay with McConnell, and then all of a sudden get Puritanical and want to make up the shortfall by cutting Social Security and Medicare?


20 posted on 01/20/2023 2:41:29 PM PST by odawg
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Let’s see.. we are giving money to....
Ukraine...
Illegals...
Drug addicts...
Common drunks....

But the only place to cut funds is from those that actually paid into it????
How stupid do you have to be?


21 posted on 01/20/2023 2:42:00 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Politically, Trump is correct.

However, both political parties are intent on dragging us right into a third-world country. As the middle class (those that actually produce), are crushed under massive inflation and debt, there will be no one to keep our country afloat.

Our debt might have been manageable after the housing market crash of 2008, if Obama hadn’t greatly increased the national debt. Back then the Feds kept interest rates low in order to boost Obama, and we are now paying greatly for their actions. You can’t have fewer producers and more money being poured into the system. In exchange for the money, something has to be produced. Trump had created that delicate balance and the economy was growing.

With the FEDS now trying to correct, while working against an administration that insists on printing more money daily, they are playing a loosing game. I don’t trust any of the economic numbers the government is officially reporting. Inflation is not going down and it is not going to for as long as we remain on the current path.

As crime increases in urban cities, and companies move out, the gangs expand their territory outside of the urban areas. Then, more and more people are going to give up on calling LEOs, and just take care of the matter themselves. Especially since “woke” prosecutors return the criminals to the street as quickly as possible. Cancer spreads rapidly if not treated. That’s the situation we are now in.

In short, given the above and several other issues, we are screwed!


24 posted on 01/20/2023 2:44:47 PM PST by CFW (old and retired)
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Oh, okay, we’ll just go broke then. That will be much better.


38 posted on 01/20/2023 3:04:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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SOMETHING has to be cut. Trump just ran up $8T (look it up) in our national debt in just 4 years, which was a 40% increase.

Blame covid for that if you want, but money was blown, and now the belt must be tightened.

And why must these social programs be sacred cows? I guarantee you, if you pull back the covers on what all is listed as “social security” there are likely huge things that could be cut.

How about social security payments to those suffering “gender identity issues” because that is in fact something they can collect on.

So give me a break these programs can’t be touched. Maybe not priority #1 but nothing should be off limits. Trump sounds like FDR himself.


46 posted on 01/20/2023 3:16:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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For better or worse, that’s just political sense. If you try to cut entitlements, you lose the opportunity to do anything else. Democrats accuse Republicans of wanting to cut Social Security anyway, and if Republicans are stuck with the label, they don’t get elected.


59 posted on 01/20/2023 3:35:38 PM PST by x
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Kick the illegals off of both. And eliminate welfare.


64 posted on 01/20/2023 3:54:05 PM PST by curious7
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Cloward–Piven strategy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy

Cloward and Piven “proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would ultimately bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy.”

Social Security Programs in the United States

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/sspus/index.html

Social Insurance Programs
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI)
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance
Unemployment Insurance
Unemployment Insurance
Workers’ Compensation
Workers’ Compensation
Temporary Disability Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Health Insurance and Health Services
Medicare
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicaid
Programs for Specific Groups
Veterans’ Benefits
Veterans’ Benefits
Government Employee Retirement Systems
Government Employee Retirement Systems
Railroad Retirement
Railroad Retirement
Assistance Programs
Supplemental Security Income
Supplemental Security Income
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Food and Nutrition Assistance
Food and Nutrition Assistance
Housing Assistance
Housing Assistance
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
General Assistance


66 posted on 01/20/2023 3:55:47 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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Cloward–Piven strategy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy

Cloward and Piven “proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would ultimately bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy.”

Social Security Programs in the United States

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/sspus/index.html

Social Insurance Programs
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI)
Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance
Unemployment Insurance
Unemployment Insurance
Workers’ Compensation
Workers’ Compensation
Temporary Disability Insurance
Temporary Disability Insurance
Health Insurance and Health Services
Medicare
Medicare
Medicaid
Medicaid
Programs for Specific Groups
Veterans’ Benefits
Veterans’ Benefits
Government Employee Retirement Systems
Government Employee Retirement Systems
Railroad Retirement
Railroad Retirement
Assistance Programs
Supplemental Security Income
Supplemental Security Income
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
Food and Nutrition Assistance
Food and Nutrition Assistance
Housing Assistance
Housing Assistance
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
General Assistance


67 posted on 01/20/2023 3:55:47 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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Don't worry.

Sen Lindsey Graham will loudly proclaim slashing SS is a priority if and only if Trump is nominated for President again. (See, his recent call for a national abortion ban right before the last election.)

76 posted on 01/20/2023 4:09:15 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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I was under the impression that cutting funding for these thing isn’t even a consideration. None of them ever would be elected again if that happened.


86 posted on 01/20/2023 4:37:09 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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Well, eventually, the IOUs will run out, and then the programs will just cut themselves.


89 posted on 01/20/2023 4:42:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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