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1 posted on 12/29/2022 7:41:34 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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A grief group or program is always good. When my Mother died, my life was saved by a grief group run by a local Hospice.

Many freepers have suggested a church affiliated group — I recommend that as well.

Other than that, take it one day at a time, don’t put pressure on yourself. There will be good days, and bad days, and sometimes you just have to take baby steps as you go along.

One freeper suggested a pet. Cat or dog, I think both are good. They don’t judge, are full of unconditional love, and help the hours pass. Dogs are especially good because you have to get out and walk them. Stay active if possible.

Please reach out to your friends on the Freep. We’ve been there.

You will be in my prayers.


30 posted on 12/29/2022 8:48:01 PM PST by Mermaid Girl
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I think one reason women live longer than men is they are not forced by society to cover up their deep, and especially sad or fearful feelings. I lost my husband of 44 years 17 years ago. I have been with a good friend of 40 year for the past 16 years. He now is under treatment for cancer, and we do not know what the future holds.

Deep grieving, crying intensely and long helps clear the pain out of the brain and body. Listing to very sad music can help that process. Going to a secluded place and making all the noise you want helps. A few months after my husband died I had gone to our beach house to take care of the property. We had some really ugly fights in that house. I was driving home thinking about that and was suddenly overcome with deep grief. I found a country road next to a deep woods, parked and cried deeply for more than an hour, thinking about how much we had lost from his PTSD and alcoholism.

A few months ago I went to a country place where I have a small somewhat isolated cabin. I was trying to get some repairs done for winter and all I wanted to do was sleep. I finally realized my partner’s impending radiation treatment had me very worried and debilitated. I soon started crying and imagining him being buried, and cried for a long time. Then I had more energy and got some of the work done. I cried several more times while there. Then returned home feeling calmer and stronger to deal with may partner’s pending cancer treatments. His radiation treatment has ended and he seems to be recovering well.

After my husband died I had many property issues to deal with involving my local government. I had neglected a lot of work while caring for my husband’s slow death from Alzheimers. I began involving myself in political action, attending government hearings, and writing about the issues. I feel I made some valuable contributions to resolving some broad issues which helped me and a lot of other people. I also made several new and valuable friends.

I wish you a successful healing. There are many ways to accomplish that. You will have to find the way that works for you. It may be religion, getting a pet, grieving hard and deep, getting yourself out in the world and finding new friends. Perhaps several of these ways. The very best of luck in your search.


31 posted on 12/29/2022 8:49:35 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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I recently lost a loved one and some people asked if I had thought of getting a pet. I had actually thought of that! But decided that since I didn’t know where I would be in a year or two, I didn’t want to make that type of commitment. However, I would consider fostering a dog or cat for a set period of time, but remembering that I would then have to give the dog up, so... not yet.

You may be more permanently settled than I am and able to take on a long-term commitment, but they say not to make major decisions in the first year of such a huge change.

Anyway, may I recommend volunteering? I tutor and I work with a group that helps people in need with cash grants.

With the tutoring, if you are a patient person, I would start with younger children—i am particularly fond of 8 to 10 year olds. They are old enough to be a lot of fun, and their schoolwork is not challenging.

There are a lot of kids who desperately need tutoring after the covid shutdowns.

You may think your strengths lie elsewhere, but any way you think best, I suggest doing some volunteer work that requires you to get out and be with people.

My condolences on your loss of your wife. This is such a huge loss in one’s life that it takes a good long time to get over, and even then, leaves a scar.


32 posted on 12/29/2022 8:52:59 PM PST by Chicory
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My mom lost my dad two years ago. 56 years of marriage. Same sort of situation. My dad was the extrovert, my mom is the opposite. It’s still hard for her after two years but she can function and find more happiness in things now. Just give it time, pray, ask family to pray for you and know that it’s a process and you can’t expect to immediately feel wonderful. Over time you will feel able to do more and find joys again. If your daughters listen, make sure to keep taking to them.

I pray for your consolation and strength.


33 posted on 12/29/2022 8:56:25 PM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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Vigilanteman, I am so sorry to hear about your tragic loss, and any words I can offer here are so inadequate to help you deal with the pulverizing sadness, loneliness, and emptiness you are currently living through.

Looking down the road a ways, one way for a shy person to meet new people, and make new friends (even later in life) is to pursue some kind of volunteer work.   For example, if you have a soup kitchen near you to feed poor people, you can meet lots of people and make new friends among the other volunteers there, who cook and/or serve the food there.

Not sure if you are into hymns or not (or if this one will be much help to you in your situation), but this hymn and recitation at least turns its attention to the profound sadness of those kinds of partings.   I hope it is a blessing to you.

     "Beyond the Sunset / Should You Go First and I Remain"

May God give you His peace and consolation.   I'll be praying for you.   God bless.

34 posted on 12/29/2022 8:56:58 PM PST by Songcraft
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35 posted on 12/29/2022 8:57:57 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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My wife passed on after 38 years of marriage, also, and I was devastated. The only advice I have is to be willing to ask friends for help. Most people want to help you.


36 posted on 12/29/2022 8:59:43 PM PST by djpg
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It will soon be tow years since I lost my own wife of thirty years. I very much understand your grief. My advise is something that work for me. Make a list of what she would have wanted you to do with your life now that she is gone.

Surely she would want you to continue to be a good father and support your daughters

She loved you so its a given she would want you to have peace, and live out you days as happily as you can.

You need to continue to do those things you shared and enjoyed together in tribute to your union.

Continue to be the honest, loving God Fearing man she married having faith the Lord has a plan for you.

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
Numbers 6:24-26 King James Version (KJV) Amen and AMEN


37 posted on 12/29/2022 9:06:09 PM PST by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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My deepest condolences. I am so sorry for your loss.

My dear wife, the love of my life, was taken from me this year.

I met and fell in love with my precious wife Joy in 1973. We were married in 1975 and she passed away February 26, 2022.
She died quietly and suddenly at home and I am thankful she didn’t suffer for a long time. She had medical problems but was not in the danger stage as she had been twice before in 1998 and 2000 in the hospital.
I am so used to coming home to tell her something funny or noteworthy or new, or to ask her what she thinks. She was my close friend and confidant who somehow accepted me as not only okay with all my faults but lovable and wonderful. A great feeling. Now all that is gone.

I cannot tell anyone else how hard the loss is but I don’t have to tell you because you know. C.S. Lewis in A Grief Observed said this is the club we have to join and no one wants to do it. Another said the person in grief gets on a trip that is one way, we don’t want to go on it and we cannot return.

One author said we do not actually find our grief has lessened but that we have grown stronger in being able to carry its weight around with us always.

I have no children or grandchildren or friends and relatives around here.
As a lifelong bibliophile I have read a number of books on grief in the past few months.
Welcome to the Grief Club by Janine Kwoh (somewhat light but deals with common things everyone says unthinkingly to us in grief. A good book.)
Heartbroken: Healing From the Loss of a Spouse by Gary Roe
The Comfort Book by Matt Haig (on non-grief topics, too.)
After Suicide by Father Chris Alar (Not just for suicide-—has comfort to all loss of a loved one.)
Bearing the Unbearable: Love, Loss and the Heartbreaking Path of Grief by Joann Cacciatore,PhD (New Age viewpoint but helpful advice and good writing).
God Hs Not Forgotten You by Dr. David Jeremiah. Christian viewpoint and very comforting and gentle.
Healing a Spouse’s Grieving Heart:....After Your Husband or Wife Dies by Alan D. Wolfelt,PhD.
The Courage to Grieve by Judy Tatelbaum. This is one of the best of the group. In print since 1980 and often quoted now.
It’s OK that You’re Not OK” Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand by Megan Devine. Very helpful to me. She understands we do not grieve at the same standard expected pace that society wishes we did, so they can toss us aside and not be brought down by our sorrow which is inconvenient to them. “Get past it” and “get over it” is like advice to the depressed or someone with insomnia. We can’t say “Gosh, you’re right. Glad you said that to me. Now I’m cured.”

I attended grief counseling group sessions for a few weeks until the new sad stories were bringing me down more than I already was. Some good help, though.

My fear is that we don’t know-—for sure-—that she is in Heaven. She was kind, generous, loving, cared for the underdog, didn’t swear, didn’t hate or hold grudges and was the finest person I ever met. But all the rules of religions scare me about the afterlife. Jews’ World to Come is for the good people but what if you didn’t fast on Yom Kippur, always kept kosher or strictly honored the Sabbath without turning on a light or a stove or driving? Sorry. Or Catholics without last rites and final confession of mortal sins or some kind of violation of rules of the Four Last Things or missing Mass? Or other religions such as Hinduism or others? Not that Joy was in those congregations but how do we know how perfect we have to be to be allowed into God’s arms after we die? Any of us. I believe if anyone should be in Heaven she should be. I pray she is there.

God bless you. I will pray for you.


38 posted on 12/29/2022 9:12:09 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna .hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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My deepest condolences, I lost DH in April after 31 years. Everyday hurts. The paperwork is horrendous. Though you are shy, make a plan to do something small everyday, even if it is just a short walk. Make a bigger plan for the near future, like flying out to visit your daughter. Cry when you are alone and treasure her memory. One small step at a time. Best wishes and prayers.


39 posted on 12/29/2022 9:19:39 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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I pray, my FRiend, that you can find a time where, when you think of her, instead of pain in your heart, it brings a gentle smile to your face.

It has been my experience that is a possible thing. And I wish it for you.


40 posted on 12/29/2022 9:27:52 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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Get a dog. Go to church even if it is mentally hard. It’ll take time. A tiny percentage of the pain will go away every day. It’ll take a while, maybe a year or two, and then one day you’ll wake up and realize the pain is less than the good memories you have of her. Eventually that pain fades, and you’ll be left with the good.
And if you have grandkids... focus there.

There is no easy path, but you can survive this.
And go easy on the alcohol.


42 posted on 12/29/2022 10:06:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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I can’t add anything that hasn’t been said. I am so sorry for your loss and the pain you are feeling. We have been married 38-1/2 years, so your indescribable loss really hits me hard. Like you, my wife is the real outgoing one and makes our family friends for us. I so fearful of the day when one of us parts.

God bless and keep you, FRiend, in this time of sorrow.


43 posted on 12/29/2022 10:10:02 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beake)
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46 posted on 12/29/2022 10:58:21 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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Your wife sounds like a wonderful lady. You two probably know each other better than most. Have you thought about what she might say in answer to your question?

Spend some time in prayer if you are a religious man, or sit quietly reflecting on your question. An answer will come to you. You will know it too.

You also can’t generalize how a woman might grieve. What would you tell her if you died and it was she suffering as much as you? Would you be upset with her if she wasn’t taking care of herself?

There are also groups that meet, usually through hospitals. Ask your doctor or hospital about them. Sometimes it helps to grieve with others who have also had family that died.


47 posted on 12/29/2022 11:10:59 PM PST by Lopeover (Biden & Harris are illegitimate.)
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I lost my husband of 32 years four months ago. I am just begining to accept that my adventure buddy is truly gone. The saving grace that has kept me from despair are our children and grandchildren. They don’t replace him, nothing can, but they remind me that there is still work to do before I too shuffle off this mortal coil. I also need to come to a conclusion about what happens after we die, so there is a lot of study and discussion ahead. I won’t deny that there is s preferred conclusion, I pray that I will see him again.


48 posted on 12/29/2022 11:13:25 PM PST by Inisfree
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“Grief is the price we pay for love.”

First, I'm so sorry for your loss. This one's not easy. You'll never totally get over loving her and missing her, but after a while the grief will feel further away. And your life will go on. You're in my prayers Vigilanteman.

49 posted on 12/29/2022 11:29:54 PM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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so so very sorry for your loss....

but I am an introvert too and if my husband of nearly 48 yrs goes before me, I will have very little social interaction except some family....

I hope I go first because he has so much junk every where...3 car garage, small shed, and a big shop plus many rooms full of stuff here in the house....

I've lost two brothers in two years and I can't understand it.....it makes one fearful for what else is coming, which it surely will because we're not supposed to be here forever....

all I know is something I read today.....whatever is remembered will never die....

also there is a blogger "I Alledgedly" and he has a long msg from two days ago titled "I'm saying goodbye" and its about his losing his long time girlfriend who died on Christmas Eve, a few days ago.....its very profound and thought provoking and I think it would give you some solace....

peace, friend.

50 posted on 12/29/2022 11:41:31 PM PST by cherry
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Be proud every day of the fact that you mourn such a beautiful lady. Not trying to make this next statement as a way to diminish your loss but so many current day men will never feel the type of loss you have since modern day women are just not like your traditional lady. Many men will never mourn as you do.

You were a very lucky man and please wake up each day realizing that fact even though you no longer have that woman beside you.


51 posted on 12/30/2022 1:02:42 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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My heart aches when I read of losses like that. Some good suggestions here, like adopting a pet and attending Divine Service, but nothing will replace the lady you’ve lost in this life.

In my prior days of solitude I found model railroading to be a way to focus on something. Modeling miniatures brings a satisfaction you can share with others who might visit you.

God bless!


53 posted on 12/30/2022 2:32:47 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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